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re: I'm starting to see how ATL rationalized taking Penix
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:19 am to AUFANATL
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:19 am to AUFANATL
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People forget that's how Cousins got his start. The Redskins drafted him with the 100th pick (with criticism) after they selected RG3 with the second pick in the same draft. RG3 had a great start and became the face of the franchise but then injuries derailed him. In stepped Cousins and the rest is history. Plenty of other examples like Aaron Rodgers being drafted to replace an aging veteran.
Yet another bad apples to oranges comparison to try to rationalize and objectively bad roster management move
Cousins was drafted the same year, which means they both were under the extremely cheap rookie year contracts, so that is an entirely different scenario than the amount of resources and financial capital the falcons have tied to Cousins and pennix
Rogers replaced a guy they had in place for decades who openly contemplated retirement on multiple occasions. He also never paid off as “insurance” - they ended up forcing Farve out to move on and still probably burnt 2 years. The rookie wage scale was also not a thing back then, so there was no rookie QB advantage, and often the rookie QBs were in the top 10 of QB salaries. Not even the same universe of the same scenario
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Insurance policies are always a tough pill to swallow but when they pay off nobody is complaining.
This isn’t really an insurance policy. This is like buying a house cash, then taking a mortgage on that house to buy a second house in case your first house burns down.
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:42 am to Minden tiger
Don't sign Kirk then.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:43 am to wildtigercat93
A first round pick at the same position and in the same year you shelled out nine figures for a starter 
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:57 am to Minden tiger
They gave cousins 100M. Why? To win. And to win, you don't need a great backup. They could have traded that pick for 3 solid contributors that make them better.
It's a completely dumb ignorant draft pick. I'm glad, I hate them anyway.
It's a completely dumb ignorant draft pick. I'm glad, I hate them anyway.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:41 pm to Minden tiger
Penix is just not that good. Health is just one factor.
Happy feet.
Reads 2 routes and then runs
Seldom looks downfield while scrambling
Not especially a physical presence
QB’s are a crap shoot
Happy feet.
Reads 2 routes and then runs
Seldom looks downfield while scrambling
Not especially a physical presence
QB’s are a crap shoot
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:47 pm to Lou the Jew from LSU
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Penix is just not that good.
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Reads 2 routes and then runs
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Seldom looks downfield while scrambling
he's not a scrambler Bad take is bad
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:04 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:There's no defending what the Falcons did
Well that will shut some narratives up on here
A lot of teams had Penix rated higher than JJ and this is proof of that.
, and I liked Penix. The issue is simple, and no smokescreens will change that...
they just signed Cousins to a huge guaranteed contract 2 months ago. You're married to him. You need to get him weapons and protection, instead you spend your first rd pick on a guy whose sole purpose is to replace him.
You do one, or the other. Not both.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:10 pm to Scoob
If Atlanta believes the future is now then the GM betrayed the mantra. If Atlanta thinks they are in a crappy division and can get their QB and win anyway, then he's on the clock.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:17 pm to Minden tiger
Problem with Atlanta is, simply put, having spent a ton of money on Cousins means that blowing the 8th overall pick on any QB is a questionable choice.
Doing so on an older QB who likely isn’t going to need development time is just plain dumb.
The Aaron Rodgers comparison breaks down when you consider Rodgers only went to GB because he went on a free fall down the board when one team (Miami?) which was expected to take him passed on him. GB getting a guy considered a coin flip for first overall pick around 22 was something they couldn’t really pass on despite not even scouting him because they figured he had no chance of dropping.
The money difference between 8th and 22nd is pretty significant, so they effectively have an extremely expensive insurance policy for Cousins.
They should either have signed Cousins and passed on Penix or passed on Cousins and gotten a QB available such as Penix, Nix, etc. Not both.
Doing so on an older QB who likely isn’t going to need development time is just plain dumb.
The Aaron Rodgers comparison breaks down when you consider Rodgers only went to GB because he went on a free fall down the board when one team (Miami?) which was expected to take him passed on him. GB getting a guy considered a coin flip for first overall pick around 22 was something they couldn’t really pass on despite not even scouting him because they figured he had no chance of dropping.
The money difference between 8th and 22nd is pretty significant, so they effectively have an extremely expensive insurance policy for Cousins.
They should either have signed Cousins and passed on Penix or passed on Cousins and gotten a QB available such as Penix, Nix, etc. Not both.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:19 pm to Scoob
This … IMO neither A nor B, taken individually on their own merits, is wrong. But if you do A and then follow up with B, to me it really doesn’t make sense and there were other avenues that would have done more overall to improve a dismal situation.
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