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When will the Astros fire Joe Espada?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:18 pm
Terrible hire who keeps getting progressively worse each season
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:28 pm to theCAW
trade him to the dodgers for a C
and CF
and CF
Posted on 6/9/26 at 10:30 pm to theCAW
Hire Cora
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:09 pm to theCAW
No point, he’s not great but the manager is far down the list of problems
His contract is up after this year so we should be starting post lockout with a new GM and new manager
His contract is up after this year so we should be starting post lockout with a new GM and new manager
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:31 pm to OWLFAN86
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trade him to the dodgers for a C
and CF
How much money deferred?
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:16 am to 5 Deep
Yeah keep Dana and keep sucking
Posted on 6/10/26 at 7:24 am to theCAW
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Terrible hire who keeps getting progressively worse each season
I’ll push back.
What can be done better with the shite pitching staff and what are the expectations for them?
What could Espada done better with the lack of talent in the OF?
What would the Astros record be right now if they had, let’s say…. Kevin Cash or a Walt Weiss? Now mind you, Weiss didn’t have a great record in Colorado…. How about Dave Roberts?
How many games better would the Astros be with one of those guys? Remember, consider the roster!
Posted on 6/10/26 at 9:19 am to Prominentwon
2024 he took over a team that went to the ALCS with minimal roster changes. Had the worst start in club history and got swept in the playoffs
2025 missed the playoffs completely after a 7-game lead with less than 2 months left in the season
2026 beat the 2024 club record he set for worst start in club history and will seemingly miss the playoffs completely again
Sure, the roster this year isn't fantastic and Dana Brown deservedly gets blame also for not filling needs. But there are clear signs as to why no one hired him away from the Astros during the Golden years. The guy just doesn't have it
No leadership, no bullpen management skills, and certainly never learns from his mistakes
2025 missed the playoffs completely after a 7-game lead with less than 2 months left in the season
2026 beat the 2024 club record he set for worst start in club history and will seemingly miss the playoffs completely again
Sure, the roster this year isn't fantastic and Dana Brown deservedly gets blame also for not filling needs. But there are clear signs as to why no one hired him away from the Astros during the Golden years. The guy just doesn't have it
No leadership, no bullpen management skills, and certainly never learns from his mistakes
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:01 am to DalenSA
Jim Crane
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deservedly gets blame also for not filling needs.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:33 am to DalenSA
A manager obviously has a role in the game, but to put most of the blame there is and always will be ridiculous.
You can only build a decent home with good, solid tools.
See Walt Weiss. Did he all of the sudden become some magician? Has never won more than 75 games in a season. He’s already more than half way there with a good roster that can be used to build something
I get it, he’s the captain of the ship, blah blah blah, and that’s all it will ever be, but doesn’t mean it’s true or I have to agree with it.
You can only build a decent home with good, solid tools.
See Walt Weiss. Did he all of the sudden become some magician? Has never won more than 75 games in a season. He’s already more than half way there with a good roster that can be used to build something
I get it, he’s the captain of the ship, blah blah blah, and that’s all it will ever be, but doesn’t mean it’s true or I have to agree with it.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 10:49 am to Cosmo
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Hire Cora
You will learn to hate him when you see his lineups and bullpen management. He gets way too much credit for the 2018 Red Sox.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:16 am to Prominentwon
quote:Last year the Braves went 76-86, changed managers, and are now on a roll.
See Walt Weiss. Did he all of the sudden become some magician? Has never won more than 75 games in a season. He’s already more than half way there with a good roster that can be used to build something
Not sure if he’s the best case study for your argument.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 11:20 am to theCAW
Phillies are 27-11 since firing Rob Thomson
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:38 pm to DalenSA
Espada has the uncanny knack of not knowing when to pull a starting pitcher, and overmanaging at the end of games.
Your bigger problem.
Your biggest problem right now. His cosplay as GM a few years ago, along with his fossil baseball advisers, are problems for which the Astros are still paying.
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Yeah keep Dana and keep sucking
Your bigger problem.
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Jim Crane
Your biggest problem right now. His cosplay as GM a few years ago, along with his fossil baseball advisers, are problems for which the Astros are still paying.
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:51 pm to Prominentwon
It’s not all Joe’s fault. But, he’s on an expiring contract, two of his three years the team has been 10 games below .500 at some point, the only outlier year he blew a 7 game division lead.
It’s a layup to let him go at some point. He’s not a good tactician. He inspires as much confidence as a grandma. Understand what you are saying about it probably not making a difference as a manager is a figurehead but damn it’s a pretty nice easy button to push to shake things up.
Despite the team playing better the last 15 games or so I’m still firmly in the camp that Dana should be gone prior to the draft and Joe let go at the earliest convenience. They aren’t long term answers to the org and don’t have contracts after this season. Rip the bandaid if they continue to be below mediocre
It’s a layup to let him go at some point. He’s not a good tactician. He inspires as much confidence as a grandma. Understand what you are saying about it probably not making a difference as a manager is a figurehead but damn it’s a pretty nice easy button to push to shake things up.
Despite the team playing better the last 15 games or so I’m still firmly in the camp that Dana should be gone prior to the draft and Joe let go at the earliest convenience. They aren’t long term answers to the org and don’t have contracts after this season. Rip the bandaid if they continue to be below mediocre
Posted on 6/10/26 at 12:59 pm to lurking
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He gets way too much credit for the 2018 Red Sox.
Well there is a lot of credit to go around. That is probably the best team of this century.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:08 pm to GeauxPanthers2
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That is probably the best team of this century.
Agreed. That lineup was unreal. The outfield alone consisted of Mookie Betts, prime Andrew Benintendi, and JBJ. Cora did a masterful job managing all of those personalities to his credit.
He lost a feel for the game, imo. He posted lineups with Nate Eaton batting third for no other reason than a lefty righty matchup at the end of his tenure in Boston FFS
Oh, and Caleb Durbin batting second….and then having him bunt.
Among Red Sox fans it’s theorized that because he was a below average MLB utility player, that’s who he favors and prioritizes as a manager. I won’t go that far, but he definitely has blind spots for his favorites.
Beware, Astros fans!
This post was edited on 6/10/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:27 pm to lurking
Espada deserves a ton of blame, Crane deserves a ton of blame, Brown deserves a ton of blame, but nobody talks about the Astros doctors and training staff. The amount of injuries and the way they seem misdiagnosed is bothersome.
Incidentally it doesn't matter who the manager is, this board hated Hinch and Baker too!
Incidentally it doesn't matter who the manager is, this board hated Hinch and Baker too!
Posted on 6/10/26 at 1:30 pm to Cleathecat
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The amount of injuries and the way they seem misdiagnosed is bothersome.
Same issues with the Red Sox. The revolving door of GMs and soon to be managers won’t fix those issues.
The Astros aren’t fundamentally broken like the Red Sox are, but it’s a slippery slope.
Posted on 6/10/26 at 2:16 pm to theCAW
He’s building something special, just give him some time.
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