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Best character in Dr. Strangelove
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:46 pm
I still think it's Turgidson, followed ever so closely by the dangers of Flouridation:
Pickens is right there, too, but he's really just playing himself.
Amazingly is still think the movie is underrated.
Pickens is right there, too, but he's really just playing himself.
Amazingly is still think the movie is underrated.
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Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:48 pm to Jack Ruby
Gotta be Dr. Strangelove himself.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:52 pm to Jack Ruby
The best line is "Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
So it's the President.
Plus, his phone conversation with the Premiere...
"Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of ... of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny."
So it's the President.
Plus, his phone conversation with the Premiere...
"Now then, Dmitri, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of ... of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny."
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:57 pm to Jack Ruby
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Turgidson
No question.
Strangelove is second.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 5:57 pm to Jack Ruby
Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper or Dr. Strangelove.
But my favorite scene is the end with:
Slim Pickens as Major T. J. "King" Kong
But my favorite scene is the end with:
Slim Pickens as Major T. J. "King" Kong
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:07 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:23 pm to Jack Ruby
General "Buck" Turgidson: Ahem... The Duty Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all" and he hung up.
[beat]
General "Buck" Turgidson: Uh, we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.
President Merkin Muffley: There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.
General "Buck" Turgidson: We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.
President Merkin Muffley: General Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!
General "Buck" Turgidson: Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up, sir.
[beat]
General "Buck" Turgidson: Uh, we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.
President Merkin Muffley: There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.
General "Buck" Turgidson: We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.
President Merkin Muffley: General Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!
General "Buck" Turgidson: Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up, sir.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:33 pm to Rep520
I know Scott wwas extremely pissed at Kubrick for years at how he cut him in the movie... Only using the "gag" takes and then lying to Scott saying he'd never use them.... But my goodness, it's one of the best comedic performances I've ever seen.
How he, nor anyone else in the movie, did not win Oscars in 1964 is beyond me. I know Scott wouldn't have shown up anyway, but it was highway robbery.
Scott was shafted twice in his career on Oscars. He should've won for best supporting actor for The Hustler and for Strangelove.
How he, nor anyone else in the movie, did not win Oscars in 1964 is beyond me. I know Scott wouldn't have shown up anyway, but it was highway robbery.
Scott was shafted twice in his career on Oscars. He should've won for best supporting actor for The Hustler and for Strangelove.
This post was edited on 8/7/18 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 6:44 pm to Jack Ruby
The one played by Peter Sellers
Posted on 8/7/18 at 7:58 pm to Rep520
good lord, that's funny ...
i showed that to my 10th grade wh class after we had covered the atomic bomb/cold war and all that, and they ate it up ... loved the movie ...
i showed that to my 10th grade wh class after we had covered the atomic bomb/cold war and all that, and they ate it up ... loved the movie ...
Posted on 8/7/18 at 9:29 pm to tiderider
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i showed that to my 10th grade wh class after we had covered the atomic bomb/cold war and all that, and they ate it up ... loved the movie ...
My proudest moment in a college class was the paper I did on Dr. Strangelove as sexual metaphor.
It was with a bunch of students who took themselves way too seriously for an upper level English class at a state university.
I started with how the general launches the strike because he cannot share his fluids with a woman (impotence), thus prompting the pilot to embark on a mission to blow his load all over the face of Laputa. The weak president (named after female genutals) clashes with the virile Buck Turgidson, who wants to fire away. Right up to where the expression of nuclear weapons as sexual dominance leads to a man riding a giant phallic object to the ground in a final climax.
The overly pretentious folks were disgusted. Professor loved it.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:14 pm to Rep520
You can't foeget the opening title sequence of the planes "refueling" in mid air.
I know for a fact Strangelove was shown to a group of senior Air Force officers (mostly Majors and Lt. Cols) at the their precurser to War College this past year....and the sexual metaphor angle was heavily discussed.
I know for a fact Strangelove was shown to a group of senior Air Force officers (mostly Majors and Lt. Cols) at the their precurser to War College this past year....and the sexual metaphor angle was heavily discussed.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:22 pm to Jack Ruby
It's very real and heavily in there. Think of the character names:
Jack D. Ripper--killer of prostitutes
Merkin Muffley--female genitals
Buck Turgidson--both words describing virility or erection
Alexsy De Sadeski--a play on the Marquis De Sade, noted for his um, interesting sexual appetites.
Laputa is the attack site, even though it's clearly not a Russian word. Hell, the entire endgame is creating an undeground world with 10 attractive women for every man.
The movie is pretty direct about the heavy sexual metaphor.
Jack D. Ripper--killer of prostitutes
Merkin Muffley--female genitals
Buck Turgidson--both words describing virility or erection
Alexsy De Sadeski--a play on the Marquis De Sade, noted for his um, interesting sexual appetites.
Laputa is the attack site, even though it's clearly not a Russian word. Hell, the entire endgame is creating an undeground world with 10 attractive women for every man.
The movie is pretty direct about the heavy sexual metaphor.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 10:32 pm to Rep520
I dont know just pick one that Peter Sellers plays and call it. The guy was amazing in that film alone,
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:28 am to Hot Carl
quote:FIFY
The ones played by Peter Sellers
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:32 am to Fewer Kilometers
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So it's the President.
I'm more or less with you, FK, because of the quotes you noted, but Scott and Pickens were A+, too in the film.
The combination of Kubrick and Sellers was key to this film's endearing qualities - recall this shares the same source material as the film Failsafe, a much more serious film (as is the source novel) with, essentially, an indistinguishable plot.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 9:49 am
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:44 am to Jack Ruby
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He should've won for best supporting actor for The Hustler and for Strangelove.
He actually declined the nomination for The Hustler.
Don't know if I have him winning in 1961 for The Hustler - as good as he was, I'm not sure he was the best supporting performance in the film. In hindsight, WSS was the fashionable pick and Gleason and Scott split the vote for the Hustler, anyway.
But, in 1961, I have Montgomery Clift as best supporting actor for Judgment at Nuremberg, even though he lost to Chakiris. Clift probably delivered the best supporting performance of a Hollywood film at least of the 1960s in that film. They didn't have great accent coaches back then, but setting that aside - just brilliant.
Stanley Kramer should get even more credit than he does. He could literally do it all. Every frame of that film is a masterpiece - as good as anything Kubrick did with similar source material.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/8/18 at 10:55 am to Jack Ruby
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Amazingly is still think the movie is underrated.
Oh its in my top 5 for sure, way to edgy and out there for when it came out. "Way ahead of its time" is cliche but man that came out 63 64?
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