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I want to talk about Pan's Labyrinth real quick.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:02 pm
Rewatching this movie again and the one question I have is this: How perfect is this fricking movie?
I don't throw that term around a lot for movies, but this movie is it.
Cinematography, costumes, writing, a sadistic psychopath in Captain Vidal, the scene with the Pale Man, the scene where Ofelia refuses to harm her brother, Mercedes being an underrated hero, etc.
I just greatly adore this movie it's a classic. What's funny though is I just watched it with a friend and said he hated it because the whole movie was in Spanish. I have some idiotic friends I know. What did yall think of this movie?
I don't throw that term around a lot for movies, but this movie is it.
Cinematography, costumes, writing, a sadistic psychopath in Captain Vidal, the scene with the Pale Man, the scene where Ofelia refuses to harm her brother, Mercedes being an underrated hero, etc.
I just greatly adore this movie it's a classic. What's funny though is I just watched it with a friend and said he hated it because the whole movie was in Spanish. I have some idiotic friends I know. What did yall think of this movie?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:04 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
I know some people don't like subtitles but that never bothers me. Great movie
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:08 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
I agree about it being about as perfect of a movie as there can be, yet it’s odd that I haven’t thought about it in years. Thanks for the reminder.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:14 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
That is a really great movie. Was the labyrinth, pale man, faun, etc. real? Or was it all made up in Ofelia’s imagination to escape from the war and violence?
You should check out The Devils Backbone. Same director made it a few years before Pan. It’s subtitles but a great story, great acting, great movie
You should check out The Devils Backbone. Same director made it a few years before Pan. It’s subtitles but a great story, great acting, great movie
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:14 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
One of the only movies that I consider perfect. Everything about it is done so exceptionally well.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:20 pm to ClampClampington
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That is a really great movie. Was the labyrinth, pale man, faun, etc. real? Or was it all made up in Ofelia’s imagination to escape from the war and violence?
Figured it was real to her and not so much to anyone else.
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You should check out The Devils Backbone. Same director made it a few years before Pan. It’s subtitles but a great story, great acting, great story
Never hear of this but I will check it out. Thanks.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:35 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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Never hear of this but I will check it out. Thanks.
Definitely should, almost as good as Pan's labyrinth and characters from that movie actually have a cameo in Pan's if I remember right.
I'd also suggest City of lost children as another similar style movie that's great.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:39 pm to auyushu
I appreciate the suggestions.
I also was dumbfounded when I saw this movie wasn't even nominated as Best Picture the year it came out. Outside of maybe the Departed, it's WAY better than Babel, Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen, and Letters from Iwo Jima.
Should've been this and The Departed for Best Picture but wasn't even nominated? What a huge huge huge frick up.
I also was dumbfounded when I saw this movie wasn't even nominated as Best Picture the year it came out. Outside of maybe the Departed, it's WAY better than Babel, Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen, and Letters from Iwo Jima.
Should've been this and The Departed for Best Picture but wasn't even nominated? What a huge huge huge frick up.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 4:52 am to ClampClampington
The director said the bloom on the fig tree at the very end meant it was real
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:47 am to A Menace to Sobriety
The Orphanage is another very good movie with a similar vibe. I believe Del Toro may have produced it (director of Pan's Labyrinth).
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:52 am to A Menace to Sobriety
Del Toro says he planted three clues to remove the ambiguity. From the interview:
quote:But the story CAN be seen either way. I have always chosen to see it as fantasy.
Michael Guillen: This is the dispute going on among people who have seen your film. Was Ofelia in her fantasy world? Was it a real world? I keep saying such questions pose a false dichotomy.
Guillermo Del Toro: Yes, of course. And it’s intimate. If the movie works as a piece of storytelling, as a piece of artistic creation, it should tell something different to everyone. It should be a matter of personal discussion. Now objectively, the way I structured it, there are three clues in the movie that tell you where I stand. I stand in that it’s real. The most important clues are the flower at the end, and the fact that there’s no way other than the chalk door to get from the attic to the Captain’s office.
Guillen: Yes, and again referring back to the dynamic of their dyad, Mercedes notices the chalk door; they aren’t just in Ofelia’s imagination.
Del Toro: Objectively, those two clues tell you it’s real. The third clue is she’s running away from her stepfather, she reaches a dead end, by the time he shows up she’s not there. Because the walls open for her. So sorry, there are clues that tell you where I stand and I stand by the fantasy. Those are objective things if you want. The film is a Rorschach test of where people stand.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:27 am to A Menace to Sobriety
I've only seen it once and that was right after it came out on DVD. I barely remember anything about the movie besides the pale man. I remember liking it, but need to watch again.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 10:28 am to A Menace to Sobriety
I rate all my movies on a scale from 1-star to 5-stars.
This is one of maybe five 6-stars I’ve handed out in my lifetime. As close to perfect as you can get.
This is one of maybe five 6-stars I’ve handed out in my lifetime. As close to perfect as you can get.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:13 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
"He will never know your name" is one of the best final "frick you"s to a villain ever.
I hope I'm talking about the right movie.
I hope I'm talking about the right movie.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 2:43 pm to LSUDVM1999
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I know some people don't like subtitles but that never bothers me.
then they are missing out because the two best movies of the last 20 years
this and city of God
both had subtitles
Posted on 4/6/20 at 3:44 pm to auyushu
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City of lost children as another similar style movie that's great
somehow they managed to make a video game (PS1) out of this movie lol. I don't know anything about it, I just seem to remember that there was one a long time ago.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 5:54 pm to LSUDVM1999
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I know some people don't like subtitles but that never bothers me. Great movie
They bother me if I'm not that into the movie. A movie like Pan's, it doesn't bother me at all because you can feel most of the dialog and you can easily read and keep up from there.
I really love Del Toro's use of practical effects in this and hell Boy 1 and 2. the costumes are great and just give a great feel to the movies.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:01 pm to johnnydrama
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He will never know your name" is one of the best final "frick you"s to a villain ever.
Yep
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:14 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
I just know that Ofelia is all grown up now and is a sexy Spanish minx.
When you hear her talk you wouldn't know she's Spanish. Her accent sounds very American.



When you hear her talk you wouldn't know she's Spanish. Her accent sounds very American.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 6:16 pm
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