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“Moneyball” with Brad Pitt - Amazon Prime

Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by FLTech
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:55 am
I was watching a documentary about the Houston Astros cheating scandal and in the documentary they kept explaining how the Astros built a team very similar to how Brad Pitt built his team in Moneyball

I decided to find Moneyball and was happy to see it was on Prime

I can’t believe I have never heard of this movie. What a gem of a movie. It was very interesting to me how they turned baseball into a numbers game with stats.

Anyways, without giving away too many spoilers, if you love sports, you will not be disappointed watching this movie.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:02 am to
Beane and Ron Washington talking with the guy they want to be their new first baseman is a classic scene.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16637 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:13 am to
Entertaining movie for Hollywood, but not so much for baseball. I kept asking myself the entire movie if they were going to ignore the elite pitching staff when portraying this team as a bunch of misfits….yeah. They did.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123414 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:30 am to
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I can’t believe I have never heard of this movie.




what
Posted by SouthPlains
Member since Jul 2023
952 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:32 am to
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Entertaining movie for Hollywood


Bingo. That A’s team had plenty of talent (especially in the bullpen); it wasn’t all “woe is me”.

The movie also kind of guts itself by telling a “golly gee whiz look how they outsmarted everyone with limited resources” story, then glossing over the fact that Billy Beane never won much of anything, and the A’s have been considered the worst franchise in baseball for a very long time.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:39 am to
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Beane and Ron Washington talking with the guy they want to be their new first baseman is a classic scene.



"Ive never played first base"

"Its not that hard, tell him"

"Its extremely hard"

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101545 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:41 am to
“What will the fans think?”

“Let’s put one of them on first base.”
Posted by GeauxHouston
Midland, Texas
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:43 am to
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then glossing over the fact that Billy Beane never won much of anything,

Wasn’t that kinda the point of the whole film though? He had them competitive a lot of seasons in spite of having one of the worst franchises in the league.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:47 am to
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The movie also kind of guts itself by telling a “golly gee whiz look how they outsmarted everyone with limited resources” story, then glossing over the fact that Billy Beane never won much of anything, and the A’s have been considered the worst franchise in baseball for a very long time.


well everyone else caught up.

You know what works better than money ball? lots of money ball.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22731 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:50 am to
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Beane and Ron Washington talking with the guy they want to be their new first baseman is a classic scene.


That’s pre famous Chris Pratt
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123414 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:54 am to
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The movie also kind of guts itself by telling a “golly gee whiz look how they outsmarted everyone with limited resources” story, then glossing over the fact that Billy Beane never won much of anything, and the A’s have been considered the worst franchise in baseball for a very long time.



That was kinda the point. Teams were obviously doing it but no one really went as extreme as they did.

Then everyone was doing it, but with way more money at their disposal.

The As are just a poor organization that has no money and won't spend it anyway, so he did as well as he could
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:07 am to
Once I found out that Art Howe wasn't really as fat as Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Art Howe was upset that they had him portrayed by a fat Philip Seymour Hoffman...

Well now I enjoy re-watching the movie even more.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32000 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:12 am to
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without giving away too many spoilers,


What spoilers would you be giving away? The 2002 season happened. It's not like there would be some unexpected surprise ending in the movie
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29763 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:14 am to
So you were enough of a fan to watch a baseball documentary but not enough to watch probably the most popular baseball movie of the past twenty years?

How have you "never heard" of this movie? It plays on a network almost weekly if not daily.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123414 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:15 am to
It was nominated for best picture, made a decent amount of money, and is on TV constantly
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
37134 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:17 am to
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So you were enough of a fan to watch a baseball documentary but not enough to watch probably the most popular baseball movie of the past twenty years?
I don't usually make baseball film suggestions to hardcore baseball fans, but if any "baseball fan" in this thread hasn't seen "The Battered Bastards of Baseball" on Netflix, watch it.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32000 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:22 am to
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Bingo. That A’s team had plenty of talent (especially in the bullpen); it wasn’t all “woe is me”.


Yeah, the movie makes it seem like the A's surprisingly went from some terrible team to first all in the span of one season. All with zero talent on the roster.

The reality is the A's had three straight winning season BEFORE the 2002 season depicted in Moneyball. Hell, in 2001 they had the second best record in all of MLB with 102 wins. The ONLY reason they didn't have the best record in MLB is because Seattle won a major league record 116 games that season.

The A's had to replace some stars from the 2001 team (notably Giambi and Damon). But even in 2002 they were FAR from the "little engine that could" team portrayed in the movie. The A's had damn good teams in 2000 and 2001
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101545 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:23 am to
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The movie also kind of guts itself by telling a “golly gee whiz look how they outsmarted everyone with limited resources” story, then glossing over the fact that Billy Beane never won much of anything, and the A’s have been considered the worst franchise in baseball for a very long time.


They were on the cutting edge of sabermetrics in MLB. Boston took their approach and put real money into it which turned into multiple WS wins.


Being innovative only gets you so far if people eventually catch up.


That being said, the As making the playoffs multiple times, even with no league pennants, is still an accomplishment on their budget.



What the movie doesn’t show is how Moneyball affected the A’s draft and they made some really poor choices by drafting players who weren’t as good as they could draft because they avoided guys they thought would cost too much on either a second contract or from their rookie pool in that draft.

If you look at that draft, they got one good guy at the top in Nick Swisher (1B - Ohio State) but drafted some questionable players with their compensation picks in the first like Jeremy Brown (C - Alabama).

Considering that getting players in the draft means controlled contracts for a few years, nickel and dime shite costs you in the long run.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15504 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:30 am to
The soundtrack also crushes it.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
23306 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:51 am to
Maybe my favorite baseball movie

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