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Questions on Joe Buck from Midnight Cowboy (spoilers)

Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:12 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
19811 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 1:12 pm
1. Does he kill the guy who he steals from near the end of the movie . It’s somewhat suggested but what do you think?

2. Joes story is told in flashbacks. Not really clear 100% on any of it but I saw somewhere that the girl he was supposed to be dating was retarded and that’s why she was t able to tell the police about the rape? When watching the movie it made it seem like she was traumatized but now I’m generally just confused.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
19811 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:19 pm to
Anybody got anything?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
38008 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:45 pm to
I'd answer but I'm walking here.
Posted by lsewwww
Member since Feb 2009
378 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 7:53 pm to
Geez, thats the most depressing movie I've seen in my disneyland life.

Here for question 1:Stolen from IMDB
"There is no clear answer in either the movie or the book as to whether or not Towny (Barnard Hughes), the man Joe picks up in a gay bar in order to get the money to buy bus tickets to Miami, dies after Joe shoves the telephone receiver in his mouth. What happened to Towny after Joe left the hotel room is not detailed. In any case, the point is not to show whether Joe killed Towny but to show how Joe, this basically gentle and naïve cowboy, is reduced to violence to help Ratso, the closest thing he has to family. "I got family gdmanit!" Joe shouts to Towny."

My opinion is he just beat him til unconscious/unable to resist. Did not have intent to murder but may have died inadvertantly.
This post was edited on 3/10/18 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
25240 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:01 pm to
Without the likes of MidnightCowboy, Easy Rider, and Bonnie and Clyde... 1970s cinema -- probably the Apex of the medium -- does not happen.

The common theme of most of the aforementioned movies also includes extremely depressing endings almixed with early showings of optimism and fun.

Midnight Cowboy is a rough watch, but it's top notch acting. I would say though that Easy Rider is probably more depressing than even midnight cowboy. Getting blown away by buckshot by a couple louisiana rednecks is probably worse than taking a dying Ratso to South Floroda
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
40977 posts
Posted on 3/10/18 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Without the likes of MidnightCowboy, Easy Rider, and Bonnie and Clyde... 1970s cinema -- probably the Apex of the medium -- does not happen.



Midnight Cowboy was definitely rough to watch back then. I remember leaving the theater and people were genuinely disturbed by that movie.

The 70s though, had a few more good ones than just those three although I'm not sure I would consider it the apex decade ... that may well go to the 30s especially given 1939.

Still ...

Top 50

1. The Godfather
(1972, Francis Ford Coppola) (Marlon Brando, Al Pacino)

2. The Godfather part II
(1974, Francis Ford Coppola) (Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro)

3. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
(1975, Milos Forman) (Jack Nicholson, Louise Fletcher)

4. Apocalypse Now
(1979, Francis Ford Coppola) (Martin Sheen, Robert Duvall)

5. Chinatown
(1974, Roman Polanski) (Jack Nicholson, John Huston)

6. A Clockwork Orange
(1971, Stanley Kubrick) (Malcolm McDowell, Patrick MaGee)

7. Star Wars
(1977, George Lucas) (Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford)

8. Jaws
(1975, Steven Spielberg) (Roy Scheider, Richard Dreyfuss)

9. Taxi Driver
(1976, Martin Scorsese) (Robert DeNiro, Jodie Foster)

10. The Deer Hunter
(1978, Michael Cimino) (Robert DeNiro, Christopher Walken)

11. Annie Hall
(1977, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton)

12. Network
(1976, Sydney Lumet) (Peter Finch, William Holden)

13. Rocky
(1976, John G. Avildsen) (Sylvester Stallone, Carl Weathers)

14. Patton
(1970, Franklin J. Schaffner) (George C. Scott, Karl Malden)

15. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
(1977, Steven Spielberg) (Richard Dreyfuss, Teri Garr)

16. M*A*S*H
(1970, Robert Altman) (Elliot Gould, Donald Sutherland)

17. The Exorcist
(1973, William Friedkin) (Ellen Burstyn, Linda Blair)

18. American Graffiti
(1973, George Lucas) (Ron Howard, Richard Dreyfuss)

19. The French Connection
(1971, William Friedkin) (Gene Hackman, Roy Scheider)

20. Mean Streets
(1973, Martin Scorsese) (Harvey Keitel, Robert DeNiro)

21. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
(1972, Werner Herzog) (Klaus Kinski) (Cecilia Rivera)

22. Blazing Saddles
(1974, Mel Brooks) (Gene Wilder, Cleavon Little)

23. Last Tango in Paris
(1972, Bernardo Bertolucci) (Marlon Brando, Maria Schneider)

24. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
(1974, Terry Gilliam, Terry Jones) (G. Chapman, Eric Idle)

25. The Rocky Horror Picture Show
(1975, Jim Sharmon) (Tim Curry, Susan Sarandon)

26. Serpico
(1973, Sydney Lumet) (Al Pacino, Tony Roberts)

27. Young Frankenstein
(1974, Mel Brooks) (Gene Wilder, Peter Boyle)

28. Deliverance
(1972, John Boorman) (Burt Reynolds, Jon Voight)

29. Barry Lyndon
(1975, Stanley Kubrick) (Ryan O'Neal, Marisa Berenson)

30. National Lampoon's Animal House
(1978, John Landis) (John Belushi, Tim Matheson)

31. Alien
(1979, Ridley Scott) (Tom Skerritt, Sigouney Weaver)

32. The Sting
(1973, George Roy Hill) (Robert Redford, Paul Newman)

33. Dog Day Afternoon
(1975, Sydney Lumet) (Al Pacino, John Cazale)

34. Five Easy Pieces
(1970, Bob Rafelson) (Jack Nicholson, Karen Black)

35. The Conversation
(1974, Francis Ford Coppola) (Gene Hackman, John Cazale)

36. Halloween
(1978, John Carpenter) (Donald Pleasence, Jamie Lee Curtis)

37. The Last Picture Show
(1971, Peter Bogdanovich) (Timothy Buttons, Jeff Bridges)

38. Nashville
(1975, Robert Altman) (Henry Gibson, Barbara Baxley)

39. Saturday Night Fever
(1977, John Badham) (John Travolta, Karen Gorney)

40. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
(1971, Robert Altman) (Warren Beatty, Julie Christie)

41. All the President's Men
(1976, Alan J. Pakula) (Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford)

42. Dirty Harry
(1971, Don Siegel) (Clint Eastwood, Harry Guardino)

43. Grease
(1978, Randal Kleiser) (John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John)

44. Manhattan
(1979, Woody Allen) (Woody Allen, Diane Keaton)

45. Scenes from a Marriage
(1973, Ingmar Bergman) (Liv Ullman, Bibi Andersson)

46. Badlands
(1973, Terrence Malick) (Martin Sheen, Sissy Spacek)

47. Coming Home
(1978, Hal Ashby) (Jon Voight, Jane Fonda)

48. Cries and Whispers
(1972, Ingmar Bergman) (Harriet Andersson, Kari Sylwan)

49. Carrie
(1976, Brian De Palma) (Sissy Spacek, Piper Laurie)

50. The Conformist
(1970, Bernardo Bertolucci) (Jean-Louis Trintignant, Dominique Sandra)
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7586 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

1970s cinema -- probably the Apex of the medium -- does not happen


I have to admit that I scoffed at this statement initially, but after reading the list that was posted, you might be correct.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6188 posts
Posted on 3/11/18 at 2:01 pm to
Damn strong list.
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