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Shawshank Redemption: Why did the Warden kill Tommy?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:33 pm
I don't get it, he was screwed either way. Either Tommy testifies and gives Andy a chance to be free ending the Warden's money laundering OR like what happened he kills Tommy pissing Andy off and Andy screws him in the end. Seems like the Warden had no way out once he let Andy in on his money laundering and Tommy revealed the information he had obtained from the real murderer of Andy's wife.
Maybe that was the point? Just seems like the movie wanted to make it seem like the Warden had won with Tommy dead and Andy in the hole.
ETA: Also, couldn't Andy have wrote a letter to a lawyer to look into his case and look into the man who worked at the country club? Andy said it himself, there would be plenty of information from the real murderer's time working at the club, W2's, dates and times for when he clocked in to work and clocked out.
Maybe that was the point? Just seems like the movie wanted to make it seem like the Warden had won with Tommy dead and Andy in the hole.
ETA: Also, couldn't Andy have wrote a letter to a lawyer to look into his case and look into the man who worked at the country club? Andy said it himself, there would be plenty of information from the real murderer's time working at the club, W2's, dates and times for when he clocked in to work and clocked out.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 9:38 pm
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
Ive always thought this was just a plothole.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:36 pm to tiggerthetooth
He wanted to keep Andy in prison
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
Because if Andy got out of prison the Warden has no control over him. It also made a statement that if he wanted you dead, you’d die.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:39 pm to tiggerthetooth
The Warden didn't exactly know that Andy had a way to escape and screw him
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:40 pm to kciDAtaE
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He wanted to keep Andy in prison
Because he was running he laundering scheme right? Otherwise, why not just kill Andy like they did other people? Obviously if he killed Andy his scheme hits a speed bump and that also wouldn't go over well with all the people Andy had helped with their finances (i.e. the other guards, other prison guards etc.). He couldn't kill Andy, and Andy could have easily just decided to stop participating in his scheme.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:42 pm to fightingtigers98
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Because if Andy got out of prison the Warden has no control over him. It also made a statement that if he wanted you dead, you’d die.
But the Warden didn't exactly have complete control over him IN prison. As we saw with the library Andy had already had extensive contact with the outside world. How easily could Andy have tricked someone into mailing out a letter to a lawyer that would look into his case?
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
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As we saw with the library Andy had already had extensive contact with the outside world.
But he didn’t. His mail was closely monitored, as was every prisoners’. As the Warden stated in the film, he allowed Andy’s letters requesting books to go out. Tommy wasn’t going to get any letters out. Killing Tommy was a clean way to stop any push for Andy’s freedom.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 9:51 pm to LSU6262
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Shawshank Redemption: Why did the Warden kill Tommy?
The Warden didn't exactly know that Andy had a way to escape and screw him
This. It's like people take for granted Andy's determination and conviction to be free. No one could have imagined he would do what he did to escape.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:04 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Because he was running he laundering scheme right?
Yes
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:08 pm to CockCommander
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Ive always thought this was just a plothole.
God you suck at movie watching
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:49 pm to smash williams
quote:That's how the movie started: with Red betting with the other lifers that Andy would be the first of the new inmates to crack.
It's like people take for granted Andy's determination and conviction to be free.
People who didn't know him underestimated him. The warden never dreamed he was capable of outsmarting him.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:15 pm to tiggerthetooth
I thought it was mainly because Tommy had those stupid sideburns.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:51 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Andy could have easily just decided to stop participating in his scheme.
And he would have been cast down with the sodomites.
Posted on 6/30/18 at 11:59 pm to tiggerthetooth
He wanted Andy to remain in prison to keep doing stuff for him for the rest of his life. With Tommy testifying saying Andy didn't do it, Andy would of course be free. The Warden wanted none of that. I hated that guy with a passion though he was one of the biggest douchebag pieces of shite in movie history.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:13 am to CockCommander
I don’t think either one of you to watched the movie
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:27 am to A Menace to Sobriety
I know its not something discussed much. But what if Tommy was lying? He didn't know many details, other than Andy professing his innocence. What if he said all of it to impress Andy? The Warden was right, he wouldn't have gotten he conviction reversed, not from a jailhouse confession made to another party years before. It held no weight and minus forensic evidence, would have not helped Andy at all. It would have just f'd his mind up and made his worthless to the Warden. I think, in the Wardens mind, he was protecting Andy along with punishing someone messing with his golden goose. The Warden never believed Andy could be innocent..
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:23 am to tiggerthetooth
Spoiler Alert
Thanks for ruining the movie for me.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:35 am to brmark70816
The warden surely didn't want or need any outside attention, probably because there was enough other crooked shite going on there, so whether Tommy was lying or not was irrelevant.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 3:09 pm to tiggerthetooth
The role of Tommy was offered to and turned down by Brad Pitt. I bet he regrets that decision, as Shawshank would be a great one on his resume.
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