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Deciphering song meanings: Silverchair - Tomorrow

Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:09 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:09 pm
quote:

It's twelve o'clock and it's a wonderful day
I know you hate me but I'll ask anyway
Won't you come with me to a place in a little town
The only way to get there's to go straight down
There's no bathroom and there is no sink The water out of the tap is very hard to drink Very hard to drink
You wait til tomorrow
You wait til tomorrow

You say that money isn't everything
But I'd like to see you live without it,
You think you can keep on going living like a king,
Oohh babe, but I strongly doubt it,
Very hard to drink,
Very hard to drink,

You gonna wait too, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow,
You gonna wait too, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow,
You, wait til tomorrow,
You, wait til tomorrow,
You gonna wait too, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow,
You gonna wait too, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow.
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:43 pm to
Typical self-loathing, early 90s jam. Seems procrastination was a problem and a song was spun around it.

Been diggin' this one for a couple decades, crazy to consider.
Posted by Signal Soldier
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34702 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:27 am to
You should start out your investigation with the fact that Daniel was 13 or 14 when he wrote it.
Posted by RockAndRollDetective
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
4506 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:00 am to
Because of the sound of the song and the style that was prevalent at the time, I kinda liked it when it came out. But the lyrics were a big part of why I eventually turned 180 on it and haven't voluntarily listened to it in years.

There's a way of writing that leaves the listener to use his own interpretation and at it's best (ex. early REM) it can be very effective. It's actually my favorite kind of lyrics because I find overly specific and linear messaging in songs to be boring. But this song is an example of attempting that technique and having it come off hacky and amateurish.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84128 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:32 am to
quote:

(ex. early REM)
Some real head scratchers there.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:16 am to
quote:

You should start out your investigation with the fact that Daniel was 13 or 14 when he wrote it.

Probably younger, honestly. It was written well before Frogstomp came out. He had said something about seeing some fat kid out somewhere wanting his Mom to buy him whatever it was and she wouldn't buy it. Pretty sure the song originates from something like that.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
16563 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:17 am to
quote:

But the lyrics were a big part of why I eventually turned 180 on it and haven't voluntarily listened to it in years.

The band had five records. They stopped playing it during the beginning of the third record's tour...roughly. Daniel felt the same way as you.
Posted by Jonas
Northshore
Member since Nov 2010
600 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:38 am to
I have little to no idea what the song is about. However, the lead singer did have a well documented battle with anorexia, so I find it ironic that he uses the words, "fat boy" over ad over in the song.

I know he wrote this song when he was very young and probably before his anorexia occured, but I am curious if there is some sort of relationship there?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34702 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:19 am to
quote:


I have little to no idea what the song is about. However, the lead singer did have a well documented battle with anorexia, so I find it ironic that he uses the words, "fat boy" over ad over in the song.

I know he wrote this song when he was very young and probably before his anorexia occured, but I am curious if there is some sort of relationship there?


His anorexia developed a few years later after they had become "stars." One of their best songs is actually written about it:

Ana's Song (Open Fire)

quote:

Please die Ana
For as long as you're here, we're not
You make the sound of laughter
And sharpened nails seem softer

And I need you now somehow
And I need you now somehow

Open fire on the needs designed
On my knees for you
Open fire on my knees desires
What I need from you

Imagine pageant
In my head the flesh seems thicker
Sandpaper tears corrode the film
And I need you now somehow
And I need you now somehow

Open fire on the needs designed
On my knees for you
Open fire on my knees desires
What I need from you

And your my obsession
I love you to the bones
And Ana wrecks your life
Like an anorexia life

Open fire on the need designed
On my knees for you
Open fire on my knees desires
What I need from you
Open fire on my needs designed
Oh, and open fire on the needs designed
On my knees for you
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:54 pm to
Saw them House of Blues NOLA in Feb 99. They put on a SHOW. The opening act was Kent, who were also very talented.

Lost my lost for them once 97 rolled around. Frogstomp was a terrific album for 3 teenagers.
Posted by Sushisnake
Member since Nov 2024
1 post
Posted on 11/16/24 at 6:05 am to
Yeah, nah. He doesn’t loathe himself, he loathes the quality of the water in Newcastle - “it’s very hard to drink”- and the lies and propaganda of the Newcastle Water Board who denied there was a problem for a very long time. It’s a protest song. How do I know? Because I’m from Newcastle, just like Silverchair. For a while there, our water was quite a lot like Flint, Michigan’s.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30460 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:05 am to
Eh they were like 14 I wouldn’t try to decipher too hard
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
18208 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 7:12 am to
quote:

In January 1996, when asked about where the inspiration for "Tomorrow" came from, Johns said: That was on a TV show. There was this poor guy taking a rich guy through a hotel to experience the losses of the less fortunate than him. The rich guy is just complaining because he just wants to get out and the poor guy is saying you have to wait till tomorrow to get out. That's one of our least serious songs but it still has meaning to it.[29]
Posted by TTB
LA to L.A.
Member since Nov 2006
2703 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Saw them House of Blues NOLA in Feb 99.


I was there too! Great show!!

This is a great doc produced by Aussie TV about the history of the band. Daniel isn’t in it but it still does a good job telling their story. Had to be tough being that age and being so popular touring the world.

Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57282 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Sushisnake


That’s a helluva bump.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164085 posts
Posted on 11/16/24 at 9:51 am to
I almost bought a vintage frogstomp tshirt the other day.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
67929 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

Sushisnake


Were you recently Googling this and just happened to stumble onto this message board?

In any event, stick around and enjoy the craziness. And be sure to visit the OT sub.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31900 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 4:07 pm to
I always thought it was about Hell.
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
23009 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 8:09 am to
I never realized until the last few years that “When Ana wrecks your life” was a play on words for anorexia.
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