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re: Poll: Will Zion get traded? Do you want him back or gone?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:33 pm to spaghettioeauxs
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:33 pm to spaghettioeauxs
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I think we would be retarded to trade him at this particular point. Therefore, I believe he will be traded because we will do whatever the incorrect thing is.
This. If it’s a player we should keep, they get traded to early. A player we shoujd have traded, will keep until they have almost zero value.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 12:34 pm
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:34 pm to LSUPilot07
They not trading him.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:13 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:Yes, I want Z back.
Do you want him back
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:10 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:In theory, gone.
Poll: Will Zion get traded? Do you want him back or gone?
But if there's really not much of a market like all the rumors say, best to keep him for now.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 2:24 pm to shel311
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But if there's really not much of a market like all the rumors say, best to keep him for now.
I do not get this logic. If he has great value, nobody will want to trade him. If he has little to no value, people do not want to lose him because we'll take a loss. So, it always comes down to keeping him.
The time to do it was years ago. Instead, we kept him, extended him. What did we get out of it? If we do it now, at least we get something.
Zion has not played in a month, recovering from a fake injury. Is he training? Has he lost more weight? What is his plan for the summer to get slimmer and improve? We don't know any of this. He hasn't said a word and people are cool with it somehow. It's all wasted time..
Posted on 4/19/25 at 4:15 pm to LSUPilot07
Trade Zion !!! I want guys that are mentally & physically tough! Doesn’t have to be a loud mouth or a look at me type of player but he does have to have grit! WE ALL KNOW that he wants to be elsewhere & not in NO so just trade his arse or Management /Owner will lose the city forever! OR till the team wins 55 - 60 wins
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:47 pm to CP3forMVP
“May as well invest one more year” has been said in regard to keeping or trading Zion every single offseason for the last 5 offseasons
It’s the same thing every year. Comes in out of shape. Gets injured. Occasionally he comes back from injury and looks good but it doesn’t matter because we have lost too many games already. Occasionally he never comes back even though he was expected to. Sometimes he taps out right before the playoffs. It’s one variation of that every single year.
It’s the same thing every year. Comes in out of shape. Gets injured. Occasionally he comes back from injury and looks good but it doesn’t matter because we have lost too many games already. Occasionally he never comes back even though he was expected to. Sometimes he taps out right before the playoffs. It’s one variation of that every single year.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:11 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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It’s the same thing every year. Comes in out of shape. Gets injured. Occasionally he comes back from injury and looks good but it doesn’t matter because we have lost too many games already. Occasionally he never comes back even though he was expected to. Sometimes he taps out right before the playoffs. It’s one variation of that every single year.
I go crazy over this topic. Our training camp for next year should start around the beginning of October. We are still in April. He has 5 full months from now (not including the past month he hasn't played) to get into crazy great shape. 150 days. I know people that have dropped close to 50lbs in that amount of time. If Zion is in the 270's now and they want him to play on the wing or more SF, he can easily be sub 250lbs and not lose any muscle. Will he commit to that right now? If he gives his word and checks into a training facility (that specializes in basketball players), I would consider keeping him. But he has to prove it, there has to be accountability..
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:39 pm to 3PieceSpicy
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“May as well invest one more year” has been said in regard to keeping or trading Zion every single offseason for the last 5 offseasons
and David Griffin leading the charge in every one of those seasons. I'm not naive to the point that I think the outcome would be any different, I just don't see any logical reasoning to move Zion at this junction. If there reasoning is truly the off the court stuff and not the on the court (or the not being on the court effecting the on the court performance) then it's even more a load of bullshite.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:57 pm to CP3forMVP
Take what you can get now. He doesn’t want to be here. We would still deal with injuries every week or so even with new coaching and gm.
I still think a big market will give you dollar for dollar for him. Another year in Nola will destroy value. Almost 2 contracts where the strongest basketball player ever chooses to play video games other than play basketball.
I still think a big market will give you dollar for dollar for him. Another year in Nola will destroy value. Almost 2 contracts where the strongest basketball player ever chooses to play video games other than play basketball.
Posted on 4/20/25 at 12:18 am to LSUPilot07
Get rid of Zion ASAP
It’s what they hired Dumars to do
Let him go be someone else’s nightmare
It’s what they hired Dumars to do
Let him go be someone else’s nightmare
Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:33 am to SportsGuyNOLA
quote:If so, that is sad. Dumars was pathetic 20 years ago in evaluating talent. Why would he have changed his stripes? If getting rid of Zion is what they want (athough the "they" in this case is a clueless management team that knows zero about NBA talent), they should have gotten someone with a positive track record in evaluating and acquiring talent. Instead, they hired their friend from their social parties.
Get rid of Zion ASAP
It’s what they hired Dumars to do
Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:36 am to slutiger5
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I still think a big market will give you dollar for dollar for him.
You are goi g to be surprised how little “dollar for dollar” is for Zion today. A mid level starter, 26 protected 1st and a 27 2nd is about it.
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:11 am to SportsGuyNOLA
Getting rid of Zion now is the absolute worst thing this organization can do. He is under contract for three more years. He just played the best basketball of his career. Yes, he played 20 games but at least 15 of those missed games were team decisions to preserve the tank. With a mandate in place to move him, we will not get the necessary pieces for a rebuild like we did with AD. Moving Zion for a mid first or two and an average starter locks this team into being below .500 for the foreseeable future.
Having Zion, Trey, Herb, and what we hope to be a top 5 pick is the best way forward. However, with each passing day I fear that this ownership and management group will make the worst possible decision.
Having Zion, Trey, Herb, and what we hope to be a top 5 pick is the best way forward. However, with each passing day I fear that this ownership and management group will make the worst possible decision.
Posted on 4/20/25 at 1:14 pm to ThePistol
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He just played the best basketball of his career.
He missed over 50 games this season. When played, it was under 30mpg, and we mostly lost. You are going to have to sell that optimism somewhere else.
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Yes, he played 20 games but at least 15 of those missed games were team decisions to preserve the tank.
Nope. You can't say this either. He has to carry those missed games. He elected to sit. I told everybody this. He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. You sat him to avoid getting hurt, cause you believed he would get hurt. He doesn't get a benefit from that now. He didn't play.
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With a mandate in place to move him, we will not get the necessary pieces for a rebuild like we did with AD
This makes no sense. There was a mandate to trade Davis and he demanded to only go to one team. If we shop Zion, and he is so great (like you said above), why wouldn't there be a market for him? You can't say he's great then say nobody wants him, but we need to keep him. That doesn't jive.
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Having Zion, Trey, Herb, and what we hope to be a top 5 pick is the best way forward.
Is that top 5 pick better than Ingram? Why are we going to be better?
Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:45 pm to LSUPilot07
Dumars will foolishly try to keep him until he asks for a trade - which will most certainly happen. Then we'll frick it all up. Then we'll frick up the draft and every player of any value will also want to leave.
Honestly I don't think I'm capable of caring anymore. This franchise will be in the fricking toilet for the next 5 years.
Honestly I don't think I'm capable of caring anymore. This franchise will be in the fricking toilet for the next 5 years.
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:04 pm to slutiger5
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Take what you can get now. He doesn’t want to be here. We would still deal with injuries every week or so even with new coaching and gm.
I still think a big market will give you dollar for dollar for him. Another year in Nola will destroy value. Almost 2 contracts where the strongest basketball player ever chooses to play video games other than play basketball.
I think this goes line for line with what 3Piece said about the five offseasons thing. Zion is a known commodity, whatever you get now you'll be able to get next offseason too. You aren't getting dollar for dollar for him, you're getting a lesser return.
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