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Do you say "TO hell" or "THE hell" with something when dismissing it wholly?

Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3209 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:23 am
I hear both used but I always thought it was "TO hell" as in throwing it down/away to hell.

I'm not talking about telling someone to go to hell...im talking about when someone dismisses an idea or thought and says to hell with it!

EDIT- As some of you appear confused I'm not talking about when you are questioning something like "What the hell is that" I'm talking about when you are denouncing something like..."they said we can eat cake...to hell with that!"
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 10:52 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
7280 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:24 am to
Neither. I say "frick That"
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
20448 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:27 am to
Buck nekid or Butt nekid?
Bush hog or brush hog?

THE hell?! Is the answer.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
153597 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Do you say "TO hell" or "THE hell" with something when dismissing it wholly?

Neither. If I am dismissing something wholly, I use stronger words than that.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24046 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:49 am to
"that shits for the birds"
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Winnfield, LA
Member since Jul 2008
22796 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:52 am to
Listen up city slicker overthinkin’ this like it’s rocket science. It’s TO HELL with it, understand? Like chuckin a busted beer can into the bonfire straight to the devil’s doorstep! “The hell” sounds like some Yankee nonsense or what my cousin dustin mumbles when he’s three whiskeys deep and forgot how to talk. You sayin’ “THE hell” round here’ll get you laughed outta the bait shop faster than a vegan at a hog roast. To hell with your fancy thread, go ask yer mama how to talk right!
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35164 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:07 am to
The
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
33952 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:13 am to
Burt, you let Sally get loose.

Nobody's taking your advice on anything
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16262 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:17 am to
Both:

“The hell you say.”

“To hell with it.”
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13038 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:25 am to
"Like hell" is the answer.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15189 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:40 am to
"the hell with it" seems lighter and more dismissive - I'm just tossing it away. "to hell with it" is angrier. A subtle distinction but a real one.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9809 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:42 am to
What the hell = the hell
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
67923 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:48 am to
"AWW hell!"
Posted by LSUChamps03
Member since Feb 2006
2653 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:02 am to
I say, “The HELL!”, like what the hell. Emphasis on HELL.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19251 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:06 am to
Awww hell

While dramatically turning my head and some type of small hand gesture. Higher levels of bullshite require fast more exaggerated movements.

If Aww hell +hand movement is immediately followed by standing up and spitting Its going to be a while before we speak again.
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3209 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:53 am to
quote:

What the hell = the hell


Not talking about this reference in the form of a question.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8696 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:46 am to
Like some posters have said, "what the hell" is commonly shortened to "the hell" but, it's also quite common to use "hell" as an exclamatory expletive like in "the hell I will" or "Hell, I can't get it."

OP is correct that something extra is going on in the example: "they said we can eat cake...to hell with that!"

It's certainly more common in the USA, to hear "they said we can eat cake...the hell with that!"

What's happened in most American dialects is the grammatically correct "to hell" has been replaced with the exclamatory expletive usage of "the hell".

What it loses in grammatical precision it gains in the exclamatory strength of avoiding the stilted, colder proper English of "to hell".

This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
17808 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Neither. I say "frick That"



This is my go-to with the exception of the filter editing it.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12445 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:54 am to
Not Duh Hell, Dee Hell
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