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re: Job promotion interview question
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:20 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:20 am to shoelessjoe
I would say it’s a really bold strategy Cotton to base your entire interview on the fact that you’re not the douchebag that has the job right now.
Perhaps, just saying, you should present it as how you are going to improve performance by stating the specific things you’ll accomplish? And if what you say is true and most of the panel is well aware of your predecessors douchebaggery, then they should all understand the implied slight against him. IE: if your boss comes in every morning and tells his admin to give him a blow job, you present it as “I won’t waste time in the morning getting blowjobs from my admin. Instead, I’ll lead teams to start a morning meeting where we each discuss our work for the day and see if anyone needs help…”
Perhaps, just saying, you should present it as how you are going to improve performance by stating the specific things you’ll accomplish? And if what you say is true and most of the panel is well aware of your predecessors douchebaggery, then they should all understand the implied slight against him. IE: if your boss comes in every morning and tells his admin to give him a blow job, you present it as “I won’t waste time in the morning getting blowjobs from my admin. Instead, I’ll lead teams to start a morning meeting where we each discuss our work for the day and see if anyone needs help…”
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:21 am to shoelessjoe
During your interview, speak about yourself.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:08 am to shoelessjoe
Never denigrate another employee during an interview. It just makes you look petty, vindictive and untrustworthy. Focus on what you can do for the company and how you can help interviewer /and/or company reach its goals. They already know what you want to say (about the other person).
Good luck!
Good luck!
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:12 am to shoelessjoe
Interviewing for a promotion is an odd concept.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:38 am to shoelessjoe
You speak to me about another when I ask about you....I'd likely try to fire, much less promote you.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:56 am to NoSaint
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It sounds like at this point your competition isn’t the other guy. You are up against yourself, and the possibility of an outside or surprise candidate.
Yeah if I were a hiring manager and my choices were either a shithead or a guy whose whole pitch is “I’m not a shithead,” I think my next step would be to find a wider pool of candidates.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:57 am to GRTiger
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Interviewing for a promotion is an odd concept
Yeah it’s kind of annoying.
We are required to complete succession planning for all roles over a certain pay grade. So we do that.
Then when one of those roles comes up, we still have to interview 9/10 times. Makes no damn sense.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:00 am to GRTiger
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Interviewing for a promotion is an odd concept.
Not really, especially at bigger companies who have HR policies about posting jobs. I’ve seen plenty of cases where it was plainly obvious who would be promoted into management positions, but multiple interviews occurred anyway.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:15 am to shoelessjoe
ChatGPT:
It's appropriate to highlight your positive qualities and achievements without directly disparaging the other candidate. Focus on your own strengths, such as your clean record, honesty, positive relationships with coworkers, and your extensive leadership experience spanning 15 years in previous roles. Emphasize your ability to contribute positively to the team and the organization.
It's appropriate to highlight your positive qualities and achievements without directly disparaging the other candidate. Focus on your own strengths, such as your clean record, honesty, positive relationships with coworkers, and your extensive leadership experience spanning 15 years in previous roles. Emphasize your ability to contribute positively to the team and the organization.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 8:18 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:23 am to shoelessjoe
Talk about what you are, not what you are not. "I am honest, dependable, and have a positive work relationship with my colleagues," then talk about examples of those from your work experience.
They know who the other guy is. If you bring that crap up you are saying, "I'm not good. I'm just as bad as that guy." If I hear that, I am going with an outside hire.
They know who the other guy is. If you bring that crap up you are saying, "I'm not good. I'm just as bad as that guy." If I hear that, I am going with an outside hire.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:23 am to shoelessjoe
Push your positives, if you’re worried that you may not get the job over this dude who sounds awful, then maybe you shouldn’t get it
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:24 am to shoelessjoe
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Is this ok to bring up in an answer that I have never been suspended, never lied and have a good relationship with all of my coworkers. He would know what I’m talking about without mentioning the other persons name. Is this ok to do?
I would look poorly on a candidate who did this. If I’m interviewing and ask that question I’m specifically talking about what value can you provide the team if put in that position. I’m not asking what separates you from the other candidates.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:28 am to DaBike
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I would be looking for a job at another company if that was my competition for a promotion.
My thoughts exactly. Can't be much of a company if the guy you describe is up for the same promotion you are.
Just to be considering this guy for the promotion shows this company is clueless and classless. You can do better!
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:33 am to shoelessjoe
yes, make up a nick name for the other guy like lying Lenny or suspended Sam. Also talk about the size of your hands.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:34 am to shoelessjoe
If you can’t sell yourself on your own merits, perhaps it’s not the job for you. Never go negative.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:54 am to shoelessjoe
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I know and the interviewer knows that the other candidate has been suspended, has lied about incidents that has gotten others suspended until the truth came out. Has also been a person that nobody likes to work for. Is this ok to bring up in an answer that I have never been suspended, never lied and have a good relationship with all of my coworkers.
As you stated it, I would not promote you. If you have to downplay the competition while not even offering up what performance benefit you would bring to the job then you dont deserve it.
There are ways to touch on those “issues” while only addressing your own profile.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:36 am to mametoo
quote:Yep. Sell yourself, don’t resort to ad hominem.
Don’t promote yourself by putting down others.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:45 am to shoelessjoe
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The interviewer asks why I think I should get the job. I know and the interviewer knows that the other candidate has been suspended, has lied about incidents that has gotten others suspended until the truth came out. Has also been a person that nobody likes to work for. Is this ok to bring up in an answer that I have never been suspended, never lied and have a good relationship with all of my coworkers
That is not the appropriate line to use. It would help if you detailed why you are a good candidate. Include in the list that you are trustworthy, a model employee (or at least a dependable employee who makes the right choices in delicate or difficult situations if model feels a bit strong to you), and that you have good working relationships with coworkers.
The interviewer will catch the references if they are looking for them but see that you are not trying to approach it as "at least I'm better than that guy" if you also include other things.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:47 am to shoelessjoe
It’s just you, the interviewer and an opportunity dude. Don’t bring other people into the conversation. It simply makes you weak.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:52 am to lostinbr
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Not really, especially at bigger companies who have HR policies about posting jobs. I’ve seen plenty of cases where it was plainly obvious who would be promoted into management positions, but multiple interviews occurred anyway.
This. It’s really in everyone’s best interest. As a hiring manager, you might think you have “your guy”, then someone you had no idea would be interested interviews and knocks it out of the park. This happened on the last team I was on.
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