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re: My friend kid is at Colorado State University They pass out Narcan to

Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:41 am to
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:41 am to
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I would bet the majority of people who OD on fentanyl knew they were doing fentanyl.



frick no. This is very wrong.

They might think they're doing heroin or oxy, which isn't much better, but fent is there because it's cheaper and stronger for the manufacturers and dealers. Vast majority of addicts do not want fent.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16845 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:42 am to
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Your typical college kid isn't running around doing fentanyl.



Not intentionally, at least.
Posted by Dale3
'Merica
Member since Aug 2014
476 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:44 am to
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fentanyl test strips


How exactly do these work? From everything you hear it only takes a extremely small amount to send you packing. Would you not have to test the entire sample, or does that small amount of fentanyl contaminate everything and subsequently trigger a positive test?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132454 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:45 am to
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My friend kid is at Colorado State University They pass out Narcan to


This is a good idea IMO. Good to have Narcan around in case someone consumes too much fentanyl accidentally.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39741 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:45 am to
It contaminates the entire thing.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30459 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:45 am to
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Vast majority of addicts do not want fent.



Eh that’s not really true. I’d rather have heroin for sure but that’s gotten hard to find. So since I can’t get h I’ll absolutely get fent. I’m an opiate user though. If I were doing meth I wouldn’t expect fent to be in it but alas
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23240 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:46 am to
They pass these out at a lot of places, I have a teen so I grabbed two and put them in the cabinet a while back.

I hope and doubt I'll ever use them but it's not a bad idea to keep some handy.

Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
1084 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:52 am to
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I would bet the majority of people who OD on fentanyl knew they were doing fentanyl.


I know a guy whose 18-y/o daughter died from Fentanyl in cocaine that she bought in a club. He always says that she was "poisoned"...at first I thought that this was inaccurate and just his way of coping with the loss. But upon further reflection she really was poisoned by something that she did not intend to consume. You can argue that she "accepted the risk" by buying street drugs of unknown origin but it seems harsh to suggest that she deserved the death penalty for this decision. It does illustrate that a single poor decision by a teenager can have permanent consequences.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16845 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 8:52 am to
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Eh that’s not really true. I’d rather have heroin for sure but that’s gotten hard to find. So since I can’t get h I’ll absolutely get fent. I’m an opiate user though. If I were doing meth I wouldn’t expect fent to be in it but alas


Well this is fascinating from a couple of directions.

You're an active fentanyl user? Or have you been clean for a bit?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:27 am to
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My friend kid


Typing “‘s” has become one of the larger challenges of our time.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55363 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:37 am to
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It’s a good idea to pass out Narcan, it can save lives


This only works if there is a penalty attached. The same reason "free drugs" is creating hordes of infected in the inner cities. Narcan is great, to help kick the addiction. But if you're giving Narcan regularly, because the abuser shows no signs of stopping, then you aren't saving anyone. "Compassionate care" is neither compassionate nor caring. It's idiotic and allows the "caring" types to pat themselves on the back and say, "well look, we gave them narcan and it saved their lives, now i'm going to ignore what will happen down the road because i don't really care about any human life, just about my own selfish needs of showing others "i care"".

America claims it wants to use the European model of drug use, however, they ignore that if you are a repeat offender, your arse gets thrown in jail. California is a carrot only model. They don't use the stick.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9809 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:40 am to
Every college does this now. Why not? If it saves one student’s life, it’s worth it.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
42952 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:46 am to
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I don’t feel like the American public fully understands what is going on here. The Chinese people are not making this in some underground meth lab. Those citizens live in a complete nanny state. The govt watches what they see on tv, monitors their internet, knows where they are at all times, etc.
So we can determine that it’s the Chinese government making the fentanyl, dealing with the Mexican cartels, and pushing it out to the streets.

The part I’ve not figured out it why. Is it money? Is it a subversive attempt to undermine the citizens? Laying the foundation for a future war on American soil?



Yes, and the narrative would be China is getting revenge for the Opium Wars of the 19th century.

The Opium Wars

Then you need to ask yourself, is it really China doing it? Or someone else and pointing at China for the blame?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
13795 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:51 am to
I know a guy whose 18-y/o daughter died from Fentanyl in cocaine that she bought in a club. He always says that she was "poisoned"...at first I thought that this was inaccurate and just his way of coping with the loss. But upon further reflection she really was poisoned by something that she did not intend to consume. You can argue that she "accepted the risk" by buying street drugs of unknown origin but it seems harsh to suggest that she deserved the death penalty for this decision. It does illustrate that a single poor decision by a teenager can have permanent consequences.

If you want the clean cut product you have to be close with the dealer.

Buying from people you dont know and especially at a club was not very bright. I wouldnt even have done that in the early 2000's.

If I dont know whos supplying to some degree, I am not touching the product.

Nowadays, I would just stay away from all that shite completely. Its not worth it. Alcohols not worth it either.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30459 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 9:56 am to
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Well this is fascinating from a couple of directions.

You're an active fentanyl user? Or have you been clean for a bit?



1 year 1 month and 13 days
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16845 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:48 am to
Congrats man, keep it up!
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1017 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:51 am to
Personal choice. If they want to carry it around and take responsibility for others, that's their call. I won't be.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46411 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:54 am to
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a guy could get offered a bump of blow at a party and drop dead. To look at that guy as some kind of degenerate loser just isn't fair, imo

I wouldn’t say he is a degenerate loser, but I would definitely say he did a degenerate loser thing.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29378 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 10:57 am to
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I wouldn’t say he is a degenerate loser, but I would definitely say he did a degenerate loser thing.


Nerd
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46411 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 11:00 am to
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I wouldn’t say he is a degenerate loser, but I would definitely say he did a degenerate loser thing.

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Nerd

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Mingo Was His NameO

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