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re: No homeowners insurance without new roof

Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1785 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:41 pm to
Most people assume and they say it on the roofer’s ads. You won’t have to pay for a new roof except your deductible. They have people trained that it’s basically free.
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
785 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

I got dropped in Florida over the roof. New insurance is $2k more per year.



did you get dropped by USAA. I have USAA and have never made a claim, but I'm wondering what might happen with my insurance as I am in southwest LA...approx. 10 mi south of I-10. haven't had any changes yet, but I would assume it's coming..??
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107203 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Standing seam installed correctly is the most indestructible


Gimme the name of someone in metro NO who can do this for me.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3451 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:14 pm to
Disclosure: I own a roofing company.

So here's what I know. There are 2 VERY IMPORTANT dates coming up. Date #1 is January 2023. There is going to be another exodus of homeowner insurance company's away from Louisiana. What's that mean for you? You won't be left with many options. I've been told that these other options are going to insure your home and then raise your rates as much as 60%!

This leads me to important date #2.

October 2022. Farm Bureau is insuring ALL roofs BUT 1 of the 4 following must happen or have happened.

1: If you are a member of the company and your roof has been replaced within the last 5 years, they are going to offer you a LARGE DISCOUNT. Crazy to see insurance company and discount in the same sentence but so I've been told, it's going to happen.

2: If you aren't a member of the company and have had your roof replaced within 5 years, they want to insure you. That also comes with the LARGE DISCOUNT.

3: If you are a member of the company but haven't had your roof replaced within the last 5 years, reach out to a company agent and find what you need to do in order to do so. Also note that if you are a current member and don't have your roof replaced by a certain date (haven't gotten a date yet), they are going to potentially drop you.

4: Lastly, if you aren't a member of the company and haven't had your roof replaced within the last 5 years they still want to insure you. Just reach out to the company agent and he will be able to tell the steps to follow.

I really hope everyone takes this to heart and truly shares it. I've seen so much in 3 years from insurance companies that don't treat their customers right. My insurance was dropped in June. I wasn't worried at all because I knew who I would call to insure everything. In my opinion, Farm Bureau is consistently in the top 3 for taking care of their people.

Here’s a link about the rate hike.

LINK
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2410 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:49 pm to
This is the standard it seems here in Florida.

Asphalt shingle 12-15 years and metal maybe 25 (varies from company to company).

I believe the FL law states that if an inspection shows that the roof is good for at least 5 more years, the insurance company can't force you to get a new roof.

Insurance companies are also asking the age of your AC and your hot water heater tank.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60840 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:52 pm to
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I believe the FL law states that if an inspection shows that the roof is good for at least 5 more years, the insurance company can't force you to get a new roof.
I dunno about Florida law, nut if it is like here they can find a way to cancel, but one thing they can do is cover your rough at ACV instead of replacement value
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4347 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:54 pm to
My roof just turned 15 and I now have the ACV for roof damage due to wind/hail. I’ve had my roof inspected and it’s still in pretty good shape. I’ve kept up with repairs like flashing, pipe collars and some boards replaced. Shingles were replaced in those areas as well as around a dormer window from before I bought the house. Had my roof softwashed and it looks brand new. The ACV currently stands at 55% and I’m hoping to get to 20 years which by then would be 40%. My deductibles also went from $1000 to 2% but that seemed unavoidable.



Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55594 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Your quote below suggests otherwise. You even put "Storm Damage" in quotations.


Yes...because if you put "hail damage" it's a different type of claim in La. Storm damage can include hail but can also include wind caused damage so filing a claim for "storm damage" will inevitably help the claim get processed because the a-hole insurance companies will fight you ar every turn to pay valid claims for damage caused from storms. If you file a claim for hail damage they'll try to avoid paying for anything caused by wind...again, because they're greedy scum of the earth type people.

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Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10131 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

I believe the FL law states that if an inspection shows that the roof is good for at least 5 more years, the insurance company can't force you to get a new roof.


They can decline for condition, inspectors are useless in FL.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10131 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Yes...because if you put "hail damage" it's a different type of claim in La. Storm damage can include hail but can also include wind caused damage so filing a claim for "storm damage" will inevitably help the claim get processed because the a-hole insurance companies will fight you ar every turn to pay valid claims for damage caused from storms. If you file a claim for hail damage they'll try to avoid paying for anything caused by wind...again, because they're greedy scum of the earth type people.


There is no difference in the claim unless it’s a named storm, otherwise it falls under the standard deductible.

Yes you’re the one trying to scam the insurance companies for a new roof because it’s old and “damaged” but the insurance companies are the problem
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
55594 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:42 pm to


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There is no difference in the claim unless it’s a named storm, otherwise it falls under the standard deductible.


The deductible is a completely different story but if you're filing a claim for hail damage the adjuster will inspect hail damage (not wind damage / storm damage). It is possible that a roof has wind and hail damage (aka storm damage) but if you file hail damage and one side of the roof shows hail but not wind damage (lifted shingles, etc.) they're going to work towards approving less money for a repair not replacement even though the entire roof has been damaged due to storms.

And again...as soon as you get the new roof from the coverage you paid for to protect against wind and hail damage, it's much easier to get another policy.

With so many roofs replaced in this state after hurricane Katrina the insurance companies know they can't afford to replace them all again so they're threatening to drop people if they don't pay out of pocket to replace them on their own. So IF you live in an area with verified storms in the past two years and IF you have legitimate storm damage, file a claim and get your roof replaced. If they drop so, you be it, you can find another policy likely with better coverage for a lower premium.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10131 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:51 pm to
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IF you have legitimate storm damage, file a claim and get your roof replaced. If they drop so, you be it, you can find another policy likely with better coverage for a lower premium.


Good luck and Godspeed
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
23778 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:50 pm to
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With so many roofs replaced in this state after hurricane Katrina the insurance companies know they can't afford to replace them all again so they're threatening to drop people if they don't pay out of pocket to replace them on their own.
God forbid that an insurance company expects people to do routine upkeep that comes with homeownership (like replacing their roofs after they've had years of wear and tear from Louisiana weather) instead of delaying such maintenance until a storm damages that worn down roof so that the replacement is always on their insurance company's dime. And then people wonder why insurance rates are so high.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
171575 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:52 pm to
when someone has a 14+ yr old roof and the wind blows or the hails fall... they need that new roof insurants claim cause all my neighbors got it w that roofing company putting flyers in the door.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
10131 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

God forbid that an insurance company expects people to do routine upkeep that comes with homeownership (like replacing their roofs after they've had years of wear and tear from Louisiana weather) instead of delaying such maintenance until a storm damages that worn down roof so that the replacement is always on their insurance company's dime. And then people wonder why insurance rates are so high.


Exactly, but these simpletons think they are fricking over the insurance companies when in reality they’re fricking themselves over. By the end of 2023, there will be maybe a handful of carriers left in FL and LA. With Ian it may be lights out for us here in FL
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21360 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:49 pm to
I’m honestly shocked insurance isn’t more picky about trees on your property
Posted by Shankopotomus
Social Distanced
Member since Feb 2009
21058 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:52 pm to
yep.

you pay for new shite

then they'll insure it for an obscene premium

welcome to insurance in 2022
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1959 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 6:18 pm to
Seeing this more and more. Insurance companies used to just bind coverage or renew etc. Not anymore. You are goi g to see them do a lot more property inspections before. They are trying to mitigate their losses any way they came. They are also denying coverage on roofs that clearly have hail
Or wind damage as an across the board first move. They are getting more difficult to deal with by the day. Guys in my roofing division are having to pound the hell out of them to get legit damaged roofs covered
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
803 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:30 pm to
We got a new roof in June of 2021. In July of 2021 the insurance company came by and took photos of the new roof. They sent us a letter because some twigs were on the roof. They threatened to cancel because the twigs proved we don't "take care of our roof". My husband had to get on a ladder, remove the twigs, and send photos to them so they would not cancel our policy. We live in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 7:31 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10786 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:59 pm to
I gotta new roof 2 years ago...because I'm a responsible homeowner. I also wrote a check because that's what responsible people do. Everyone in storm areas has this weird idea that it's impossible to get a new roof unless an insurance company pays for it.

No wonder insurance companies don't want any part of that racket.
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