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One of the most iconic photographs in history was captured 79 years ago today...

Posted on 2/23/24 at 3:59 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 3:59 am
Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima.



Captured by Associated Press photographer Joe Rosenthal in the early afternoon on February 23, 1945, at the summit of Mount Suribachi. The position which dominated the southern end of the island had been captured earlier that day. Marines from Easy Company of the 28th Marine Regiment were ordered to climb to the summit, capture it, and plant an American flag. Lieutenant Harold G. Schrier's platoon would have the honor of carrying Old Glory for the occasion. At about 10:30 AM, with the summit secured, Schrier and fellow Marines Ernest Thomas and Oliver Hansen rose the first flag over Iwo Jima. The Marines and Sailors on the shore and at sea reacted immediately and enthusiastically to the sight of the Colors on top of Mount Suribachi. Cheers went up from the beach, bells and whistles blasted from the ships just off the coast.



But just as that first flag went up, Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal came ashore on the island alongside General Holland Smith. Seeing the American flag flying over the imposing mountain, Forrestal was overcome with emotion and zeal, exclaiming to Smith: "Holland, the raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next five hundred years!" Going even further, Forrestall ordered the flag to be taken down so that he could keep it as a souvenir.

As James Bradley describes in his book, Flags of Our Fathers:

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Forrestal was so taken with fervor of the moment that he decided he wanted the Second Battalion's flag flying on Mt. Suribachi as a souvenir. The news of this wish did not sit well with 2nd Battalion Commander Chandler Johnson, whose temperament was every bit as fiery as Howlin Mad's. "To hell with that!" the colonel spat when the message reached him. The flag belonged to the battalion, as far as Johnson was concerned. He decided to secure it as soon as possible, and dispatched his assistant operations officer, Lieutenant Ted Tuttle, to the beach to obtain a replacement flag. As an afterthought, Johnson called after Tuttle: "And make it a bigger one."


And so it was that shortly after noon on February 23, 1945, six men from Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 28th Marine Regiment, 5th Marine Division would raise the second flag over Mount Suribachi as an afterthought. However, the photograph taken of them as they did so would live on in history as among the most iconic ever taken. Sergeant Michael Strank, Corporal Harlon Block, and PFCs Harold Keller, Franklin Sousley, Harold Schultz, and Ira Hayes were the men who raised that second flag. Of these six, three would be killed in combat in the coming days and weeks on Iwo Jima.

For the photograph, Rosenthal received the 1945 Pulitzer Prize for Photography. In 1954, that same photograph became the basis for the U.S. Marine Corps War Memorial which currently occupies a space in Arlington, Virginia.



The story of the flag raising atop Mount Suribachi was eventually turned into a Pulitzer Prize-winning book by James Bradley called Flags of Our Fathers which was in turn made into a theatrical film directed by Clint Eastwood and produced by Steven Spielberg.

Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:15 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11333 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 4:16 am to
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Going even further, Forrestall ordered the flag to be taken down so that he could keep it as a souvenir.

Not surprising.

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The news of this wish did not sit well with 2nd Battalion Commander Chandler Johnson, whose temperament was every bit as fiery as Howlin Mad's. "To hell with that!" the colonel spat when the message reached him. The flag belonged to the battalion, as far as Johnson was concerned. He decided to secure it as soon as possible, and dispatched his assistant operations officer, Lieutenant Ted Tuttle, to the beach to obtain a replacement flag. As an afterthought, Johnson called after Tuttle: "And make it a bigger one."


Good
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2139 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:15 am to
James Bradley’s father was credited as being one of the flag raisers in the photo. He wrote a book about his father’s experience and so on. He said his father was always hostile whenever raising the flag was mentioned.

A few years ago, it was discovered that James Bradley wasn’t actually in the picture. He raised the original flag and since the other guys were dead, they told him to represent the marine corp and keep his mouth shut. He did, all his life.

This is one of the most iconic photos ever taken and anyone paying close attention, can see it wasn’t him in the position he was supposed to be in. His uniform was wrong. The guy he was substituted for was Harold Shultz. Harold was actually the guy in the photo. He survived the war and never told anyone.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85101 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:22 am to
Thanks for the background story. Had no idea it was the second flag. The fact that it was due to bureaucracy is just as American as the flag itself.
Posted by CajunPolo
Houston, TX.
Member since Sep 2003
2628 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:37 am to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18925 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:48 am to
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he decided he wanted the Second Battalion's flag flying on Mt. Suribachi as a souvenir.


The absolute balls on this politician to make that demand while standing on a beach littered with dead Marines. He's lucky he didn't take a .45 to the skull right then.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119390 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 6:50 am to
When America was a great nation.
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2563 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:12 am to
When men were men.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25362 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 7:31 am to
I have a carbine just like the one in the 2nd photo given to me by my WW2 veteran Dad. Short, very reliable and deadly. Priceless.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:04 am to
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James Bradley’s father was credited as being one of the flag raisers in the photo. He wrote a book about his father’s experience and so on


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A few years ago, it was discovered that James Bradley wasn’t actually in the picture.



Yep, his book and movie was wrong.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 8:34 am to
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When men were men.



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