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re: Plane crash at Oakbourne golf course

Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:28 pm to
Yeah I heard he didn’t rotate until 3/4 of the way down runway. Def abnormal. No clue why he didn’t abort
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20863 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Yeah I heard he didn’t rotate until 3/4 of the way down runway.


Strange. Where did you hear that?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33790 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

Yeah I heard he didn’t rotate until 3/4 of the way down runway.


For the non-pilots, what exactly does this mean. I can't imagine it means he didn't start his takeoff until that far down the runway.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17614 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:47 pm to
Also reports of white smoke on the rollout and weird sounding engine.
Def something wrong with plane
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125383 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:48 pm to
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can't imagine it means he didn't start his takeoff until that far down the runway.


Rotate is when you start lift off basically

A plane that small should only take a couple thousand feet and that runway is like 8000’
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17614 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

For the non-pilots, what exactly does this mean. I can't imagine it means he didn't start his takeoff until that far down the runway.

He wasn't gaining enough speed fast enough. You can usually get a Bonanza airborne within 2000-2500 feet.
Runway 4R from start to reported rotation point is over 5000 feet down.
Posted by killercoconut
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2008
3807 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:52 pm to
This has been confirmed
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17052 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

owner of Manuel Builders flying solo



My wife knows him and his wife well. And she confirmed he was solo.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20863 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Someone that works at the airport
Also reports of white smoke on the rollout and weird sounding engine.
Def something wrong with plane


I wonder if he was trying to turn and lost the engine. The damage to the golf course looked like it was a steep dive.
Posted by Teddy1388
I-10
Member since Aug 2017
739 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:00 pm to
Always heard he was a really good guy and did a lot for the community. Sad to hear
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5091 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
He was in his early 60’s correct?
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3162 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:01 pm to
Questions on life insurance applications:

Do you smoke?
Do you have diabetes?
Do you fly a small aircraft?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
20863 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Do you fly a small aircraft?


You have to complete an extra separate form if you are a private pilot. I think it is called an aviation supplement.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 2:04 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17614 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

I wonder if he was trying to turn and lost the engine. The damage to the golf course looked like it was a steep dive.

Someone at the golf course said he went "straight down". Probably spin/stalled as he tried to get turned around.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17614 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

You have to complete an extra separate form if you are a private pilot. I think it is called an aviation supplement.

I went thru a broker that specializes in life insurance for pilots.
It's not much more expensive.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
17052 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

He was in his early 60’s correct?


Yes I believe.
Posted by Cryptococcus
Member since Apr 2024
28 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:48 pm to
He was a great man. This is a big loss to the community. He leaves behind a wife, a son, two daughters, and some grand children. RIP Greg.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
63615 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

N643RS
Local Bonanza


Lot of Bos been crashing recently
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger311
Lafayette, LA
Member since Aug 2005
4579 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 3:40 pm to
Per KLFY:

quote:

UPDATE, 9/12/24, 3 p.m.: The crash took the life of Greg Manuel, of Manuel Builders in Lafayette, according to company officials. Company staff was informed of Manuel’s death this afternoon.

ORIGINAL STORY: LAFAYETTE, La. (KLFY) — One person is dead after a small plane crashed at a golf course in Lafayette, according to reports.

Initial reports said a single-engine plane crashed late Thursday morning at Oakbourne Country Club, which is adjacent to Lafayette Regional Airport. One confirmed occupant inside the aircraft was pronounced dead onsite.

The preliminary investigation is of a small, private aircraft which crashed upon takeoff at 11:35 a.m., officials said.

Investigators with the Lafayette Fire Department are on scene. Authorities said the investigation will be turned over to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), which confirmed that it is investigating a crash of a Hawker Beechcraft airplane near Lafayette.

An NTSB investigator is expected to arrive on scene tomorrow, and a preliminary report will be available within 30 days, officials said.

Witnesses to the accident or those who have surveillance video or other information that could be relevant to the investigation are asked to contact the NTSB at witness@ntsb.gov.

KLFY has a news crew on the way, and updates will be provided as more information becomes available.



quote:

https://www.klfy.com/local/lafayette-parish/plane-crashes-at-lafayette-golf-course-near-airport/


I've been gathering information throughout the day as I am a member there and have several people I know who were at the course or knew someone there sending me info.

Eyewitnesses say the plane was taking off, attempted to turn left, he lost the engine and plane stalled, and made a steep dive to the crash site. A friend that is a pilot said Greg was a very skilled and experienced pilot, and it would be shocking to him if anything but a mechanical issue/malfunction was the cause.

The video below was sent from someone at the course today. It's not graphic, just video of the plane burning after the crash.

Very sorry for his family and coworkers, such a tragic event. Rest in peace Greg.


Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
39236 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 5:00 pm to
73 according to a report that I read but can’t be 100%.

We know his step mom. She couldn’t even talk to one of our other good friends.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 5:02 pm
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