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Screwed up garage door trying to replace bottom seal
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:08 pm
So I wanted to replace the bottom weather stripping on my garage door this weekend. The garage door was installed in the mid 80s, so the bottom bracket seems to be an out-of-date part. Standard bottom brackets today are side mounted as pictured below, but mine covers the bottom of the door, so it has to be removed to replace the slide-in weather stripping.
I did a fare amount of research on Youtube and Google to properly do this repair, but didn't come across my particular bracket type. I wasn't aware that removing the bolts of this bracket and sliding it off allowed the spring loaded torsion cable to retract freely. Luckily my fingers weren't in the way, because these torsion cables can do serious damage if your hand is in the wrong spot.
I quickly learned these aren't meant to come off by amateur DIYers and I had both brackets retract up, but managed to pull one side back down and reattach it which was also a dangerous task. The other torsion cable snagged a few times on the way up and started fraying and unwound itself from the top pulley. I threw in the towel and contacted a repairman to come out and work on it, as I don't want to mess with the pulley, cables or spring and lose a finger over this. After researching more, it looks like the type of bracket I have isn't commonly used and the above left pictured bracket is commonly installed on modern garage doors which allows you to easily slip that rubber seal in and out.
I can't seem to find a better way to have gotten the old seal out and a new one in as the entry to slide the seal was under this bracket and it had to be moved. I'll surely fork out some $$$ tomorrow, but it's better to keep my fingers and lose some money over what was supposed to be an easy fix. Does anyone else have these older "full-cover" brackets?

I did a fare amount of research on Youtube and Google to properly do this repair, but didn't come across my particular bracket type. I wasn't aware that removing the bolts of this bracket and sliding it off allowed the spring loaded torsion cable to retract freely. Luckily my fingers weren't in the way, because these torsion cables can do serious damage if your hand is in the wrong spot.
I quickly learned these aren't meant to come off by amateur DIYers and I had both brackets retract up, but managed to pull one side back down and reattach it which was also a dangerous task. The other torsion cable snagged a few times on the way up and started fraying and unwound itself from the top pulley. I threw in the towel and contacted a repairman to come out and work on it, as I don't want to mess with the pulley, cables or spring and lose a finger over this. After researching more, it looks like the type of bracket I have isn't commonly used and the above left pictured bracket is commonly installed on modern garage doors which allows you to easily slip that rubber seal in and out.
I can't seem to find a better way to have gotten the old seal out and a new one in as the entry to slide the seal was under this bracket and it had to be moved. I'll surely fork out some $$$ tomorrow, but it's better to keep my fingers and lose some money over what was supposed to be an easy fix. Does anyone else have these older "full-cover" brackets?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:11 pm to 1MileTiger
I mean, you couldn't tell it was in a bind? Your lucky you didn't hurt yourself.
Can't you just retrofit some new type brackets?
Can't you just retrofit some new type brackets?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:17 pm to poochie
I figured it was tightly stuck to the garage door from years of being there, so when I was prying it off with a hammer and chisel, I didn't think much of it. It wasn't until it came over the lip and sprung up that I realized how it works, but it was too late to really fix at that point. I do a lot of DIY projects around the house so didn't think much else of this simple fix with having to pull a bracket off to access something.
Since I've already got the new seal on and have a repairman coming out to replace the torsion cable that has frayed and gotten into a tangled mess around the pulley, I probably won't replace this bracket with a newer style one. I'll be selling this place soon and shouldn't need any additional work done to the garage door, so no real need to replace the brackets. I try to take precautions when working around the house, but this is one of those cases where a lot of folks could get into trouble as there isn't a very evident danger there.
Since I've already got the new seal on and have a repairman coming out to replace the torsion cable that has frayed and gotten into a tangled mess around the pulley, I probably won't replace this bracket with a newer style one. I'll be selling this place soon and shouldn't need any additional work done to the garage door, so no real need to replace the brackets. I try to take precautions when working around the house, but this is one of those cases where a lot of folks could get into trouble as there isn't a very evident danger there.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:43 pm to 1MileTiger
I hate messing with garage doors.
I was helping my uncle tighten a roll up door on his body shop one-time using pipe wrenches which was a pretty bad idea. One of the wrenches slipped and it threw is arm straight into a piece of angle iron. It punched a pretty good sized hole in his forearm. I was able to catch the pipe with my wrench before the door fell all the way down and caused more damage or knocked our ladders out from underneath us. We finally got it adjusted but it scared the shite out of me.
I was 18 and have hated touching the springs on doors ever since. I can do everything else required to work on/build a house and have been doing so for many years now but I hate messing with a damn garage door.
I was helping my uncle tighten a roll up door on his body shop one-time using pipe wrenches which was a pretty bad idea. One of the wrenches slipped and it threw is arm straight into a piece of angle iron. It punched a pretty good sized hole in his forearm. I was able to catch the pipe with my wrench before the door fell all the way down and caused more damage or knocked our ladders out from underneath us. We finally got it adjusted but it scared the shite out of me.
I was 18 and have hated touching the springs on doors ever since. I can do everything else required to work on/build a house and have been doing so for many years now but I hate messing with a damn garage door.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:48 pm to stout
I was even aware of the tension spring being dangerous, but didn't think that it would have any affect on the bottom bracket of the door. I assume as long as you aren't dicking around with the spring or pulley itself, the only risk was dropping the door on a foot or something.
Even as an experienced DIYer, I was a little taken back at how dangerous the incident was with no real warnings. I can imagine how someone with less knowledge and experience could easily have lost a finger or worse there. Seems like there could be a better way to move a semi-heavy object up and down without using a wound up piece of metal.
Even as an experienced DIYer, I was a little taken back at how dangerous the incident was with no real warnings. I can imagine how someone with less knowledge and experience could easily have lost a finger or worse there. Seems like there could be a better way to move a semi-heavy object up and down without using a wound up piece of metal.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 9:52 pm to 1MileTiger
I bet the wife is annoyed
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:08 pm to 1MileTiger
I've never seen that type of door but I do not mess with Garage Doors spring-related mechanisms. I'll work on the motor side them but frick the danger of the springs plus they are tough to correctly fine tune.
Write the check, don't look back and be happy you didn't hurt or kill yourself.
Write the check, don't look back and be happy you didn't hurt or kill yourself.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 10:12 pm to 1MileTiger
Garage doors are something I wont mess with.
Well worth the $100-200 it always costs me to get a guy out there to do it right.
Well worth the $100-200 it always costs me to get a guy out there to do it right.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:10 pm to Cosmo
Yep, I got the garage door mostly shut with about a 1 foot gap on one side and "locked" it up tight with some wood clamps from the inside around a few of the wheels. Going to let the professional handle this one tomorrow and swallow my pride.
Oh the joys of home ownership.
Oh the joys of home ownership.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 11:42 pm to stout
quote:
I hate messing with garage doors.
I give Garage doors as much respect or more as I would a tablesaw.
When dealing with them I take my time and try and think every move through. I don't like messing with them either.
Was helping my BIL with his and the spring got away from us causing one of those "glad my finger wasn't on THAT side of the cable" moments.
Don't let them fool you. they are one of the most dangerous machines a homeowner has around.
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