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re: So you want to be a Carrier Pilot
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:49 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Can't quite make the CAG bird - VF-31? Looks like the Tomcatters but can't make it out.
Yup, squadron has a long linage too.
WW2 CV2. This is a Grumman F4F-3 Wildcat fighter of VF-31 Fighter Squadron 31, the Tomcatters. Note 4 Japanese kills & squadron's Felix the Cat insignia. B&W shot is April 1942: both these planes went down w/Lex. F1 flown by LCDR John Thach; F13 by LT Ed O'Hare.
Wash day on the USS Saratoga. Taking North Atlantic water over the bow, 2 DecF-4B Phantom IIs of VF-31 "Tomcatters" and VF-103 "Sluggers" secured on the deck, Dec 2 1967
The “CAG” jet from VF-31 “Tomcatters” tickles the Mach on a high-speed pass at NAS Oceana, both G.E. F-110-400 engines in full afterburner.
I was on this Med cruise, last deployment for the FID (CV-59 Forrestal)
VF-11 Red Rippers and VF-31 Tomcatters in formation with Turkish AF F-16, USS Forrestal 1991 cruise.
Then 2 months after that deployment did a homeport change from Ocean to Miramar. Upgraded from F-14A to F-14D and deployed with same squadron in 94.
ir Group assigned Carrier Air Wing 14 (CVW-14) over USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) 1 May 1994. CVW-14
F-14D Tomcat VF-11and VF-31 Tomcatters;
S-3B Viking VS-35
F/A-18C(N) VFA-25 and from VFA-113
EA-6B Prowler VAQ-139
E-2C Hawkeye VAW-113
A-6E Intruder VA-196
One of the finest jets ever made
Posted on 2/14/24 at 1:59 pm to Itismemc
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I've seen more difficult landings on NES Top Gun
Tricky bastard, everyone knows that’s impossible.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:00 pm to LSUA 75
If anyone interested, Discovery Channel did a documentary of our 94 Westpac cruise. It was back when they were just getting going as a TV channel. It’s 1.5 hours long and explores everything about life on a carrier. Some things are way different now, no females then plus our shellback initiation was tougher. Also became Golden Shellback on that cruise, which is much rarer. Got to visit some great places too.
Really good video. Captures our sister squadron losing an F-14 right after doing super sonic flyby (both crewmen rescued).
YouTube CFAS LINK
Really good video. Captures our sister squadron losing an F-14 right after doing super sonic flyby (both crewmen rescued).
YouTube CFAS LINK
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:35 pm to OU Guy
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WW2 CV2. This is a Grumman F4F-3 Wildcat fighter of VF-31 Fighter Squadron 31, the Tomcatters. Note 4 Japanese kills & squadron's Felix the Cat insignia. B&W shot is April 1942: both these planes went down w/Lex. F1 flown by LCDR John Thach; F13 by LT Ed O'Hare.
I watched the youtibe video of the wreck dive. Amazing that those wildcats still look that good.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 2:39 pm to BRgetthenet
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When they say, “bla blah blah, call your ball..” is that the pilot speaking to the LSO, or vice-versa?
That is the Approach Controller (most commonly during instrument recoveries) or occasionally the LSO speaking.
Typically Approach drops you off 3/4 mile behind the boat with the call "Dragon 302, 3/4 mile, call the ball". This is your signal to quit flying instruments and look outside to see if you can pick up the OLS. Hopefully you are on centerline and the yellow "meatball" is centered up vertically in line with the horizonal green datums, indicating you are on the proper glidepath. (During the day most recoveries are done with minimum comms or sometimes even "zip lip". You check in with approach as you approach the ship, and then you don't talk at all while you hang out overhead at your squadron's pre-assigned altitude within 10nm of the boat and watch while they are launching all the planes from the next cycle. In my airwing I think the F-14s were at 3K and 4K, Hornets at 5K and 6K, A-6s at 7K, S-3s at 8K, etc. The first Tomcat should hit the break as the last plane is going down the catapult, and you move down a thousand feet once the layer below you clears out. The goal is to have an A/C touching down every 45 seconds. You only key the radio once you come around the corner and line yourself up. Then you make your ball call.)
If you in fact see the ball, you respond with your A/C nose number, type of A/C and current fuel state. i.e. "302, Hornet ball, 5.0" The LSOs and the ATC guys up in the tower as well as the Air Boss and his folks in Pri Fly want to know who/what airplane is landing, how much it weighs for the arresting gear and how much gas you have in case you bolter and go around.
If you don't see the ball, due to extreme low visibility or being AFU, you say "Clara". Now it's up to the LSO to tell you where you are and give you directions on how to fix it. They will say something along the lines of "You're low lined up left. Little power, right for line-up" Generally followed immediately (at least in my case most of the time!)with "Easy with it, you're overpowered, come left!" If you get back in the neighborhood of CL/GP/On speed and you see the ball, you call "Hornet ball" and continue to land.
And yes, you do go to 100% military thrust (or maybe even a little afterburner depending on how scary it is) each time you touch down in case you miss the wire "bolter" and have to go around. You will get yelled at by the Air Boss if you don't. And if you make a habit of it you won't be a carrier aviator for very long.
This post was edited on 2/14/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:17 pm to Dadren
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bet he still got nitpicked in the debrief for incorrect comms or catching the wrong wire or something like that.
You are absolutely judged on which wire you catch of the four. Every landing is graded by the LSO (“Paddles”), and the the average score of your landing is compared to your squadron-mates and those scores are displayed in your Ready Room. Spend too much time at the bottom of that list, and you’ll get heat from your squadron CO, as well as ragged by the other aviators.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:19 pm to Itismemc
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So you want to be a Carrier Pilot
Takeoffs are optional.
Landings are mandatory.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 3:58 pm to Commandeaux
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So you want to be a Carrier Pilot
I can't...I'm black.
Oh well than you only need a drivers license.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 4:14 pm to tigerpawl
Give me that all day over a boat in the turn or working paddles.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 4:52 pm to LSUA 75
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Icelandic pussy
Go On…….
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:42 pm to Tigeralum2008
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Go On…….
^What he said
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:53 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:many are
My BIL is a former naval aviator. He's kind of an ubernerd tbh
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:55 pm to OU Guy
Great pics, but I saw a Tomcat get a kill... devil 101.. and a corsarII send some zunis
Posted on 2/14/24 at 6:57 pm to Chucktown_Badger
quote:Yes, but with the busted landing gear this intruder had ONE shot hence the "net" sadly - the pilot of the intruder crashed on a training mission a few years later and the "air boss" talking him down died when his ejection seat failed.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but they floor it when they hit the deck, in case they miss the wires and need to take off the other side, right?
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
quote:Fueled a one that got a blue on blue kill
I was a grape but never fueled them.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:08 pm to tigerpawl
quote:They are the reason I have hearing aids.
quote:
F-14
When seen in person, you get an idea of how monstrous they were. I miss them...
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:38 pm to tigerpawl
Having seen a lot of traps from the Crow's Nest on the Abraham Lincoln in 1993/94, that was nice landing.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 8:04 pm to CarRamrod
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you speak of aircraft carriers as if they are skiff.
The navy boys literally call it “The Boat”
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:31 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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I was a grape but never fueled them.
From VF-31 (Tomcat) Maint Control:
“CAG, Tomcat”
“Tomcat, go ahead”
“Can I get a grape nut on 202”
“Roger Tomcat, grape nut on 202”
“Thanks CAG”
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:36 pm to choupiquesushi
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They are the reason I have hearing aids.
I can’t hear you, can you speak up”
I have 30% loss in left ear and 10% in right. Lots of jet engines and other loud noises in my many Navy years.
The quietest time onboard carriers was the morning FOD walk down early in morning before the first jet fired up. Inside the ship there were always noises too. Always.
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