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Would You Drive This? 1978 Honda Accord LX CVCC

Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:15 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:15 am
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Finding the right historical perspective for the first-generation Accord is difficult, because it's not merely an old car; it's the old car that changed the entire American automotive industry. Seen through modern eyes, this '78—a denizen of Honda's unofficial Los Angeles museum and a stand-in for the first-year 1976 Accord—does indeed feel like ancient history, a distant ancestor of today's Accord whose only discernible relation is a few common nucleotides in its DNA. The first-gen Accord is even smaller than it looks in the photos; we're so used to 18-inch-and-larger wheels that the Accord's 13-inch steelies produce an optical illusion of greater size. In truth, the Accord is scarcely an inch longer—and three inches narrower—than a Honda Fit.

But there's another way to consider this car, and that requires casting your mind back to the darkest days of the malaise era, when the Big Four (AMC still existed!) were struggling to deal with new pollution standards and a new consumer demand for better fuel economy. Saddled with clumsy emissions equipment, American cars were hard to start and ran like crap, and their builders were falling all over themselves to slash horsepower and heft.

Honda, meanwhile, was trying to make its cars bigger and faster. It had already made its small-car beachhead in the U.S. with the Civic, and the Accord was Honda's first serious attempt at something more substantial. For all its thoughtful touches—more on which in a few—the very first thing I notice is how easy the Accord is to cold-start. One pump of the accelerator, one turn of the key, and the Accord's engine springs to life—typical today, but a minor miracle in 1978.

It's all the more miraculous when you consider that the Accord was saddled with its own complicated lean-burn fuel system, called CVCC. The Accord's 1.6-liter CVCC engine is a stroked version of the Civic's 1.5, with a 12-valve head, ignition prechamber (yes, just like an old diesel), and a three-barrel progressive carburetor. It was an embarrassment to the domestics who whined about the costs of adding a catalytic converter—CVCC didn't need one.

Not that CVCC was perfect. Look at the under-hood pics and you'll see two heat shields sandwiching the carburetor. Honda located the carb right above the exhaust manifold, and early CVCC engines had an unfortunate habit: When you shut them down, the gasoline would boil out of the fuel bowl and condense in the intake manifold. Restarting sucked that gasoline into the engine, prompting my past-era colleagues at MotorTrend to dub it "the self-flooding carburetor". (The heat shields seem to have mostly solved the problem. Still, while most carbureted cars recommend depressing the accelerator slightly when warm-starting, this Accord is the only car I've driven that actually means it.)

The warm-up is slow. The engine races for several minutes, scenting the air with the unique fragrance of catalyst-free exhaust. A light tap on the gas pedal drops the engine down to a slower idle, and the Honda and I are ready to go. I shift into first gear and the Honda takes off without stumbling, a feat few domestic cars of the era could manage without a lengthy warm-up drive (crossing a state or two was usually sufficient).



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Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:15 am to
Prob not
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9291 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:16 am to
frick yeah. But I like old quirky cars
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25082 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:18 am to
That's a poon slayin' machine right there....











tranny poon, but still.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21620 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:19 am to
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the Accord's 13-inch steelies

Wow.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144249 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:22 am to
PJ still drives an 87’ Prelude
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13038 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:22 am to
My first car was a civic from that era. So, yes, I would drive it.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:22 am to
This is what they looked like in 1981:

Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37457 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:29 am to
That's a BMW copy right there if I've even seen one.

1980 BMW 320i

This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7532 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:33 am to
frick yeah I would
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10708 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:35 am to
The 81 Accord hatchback looked pretty much the same as the 79 model with slight details changing. I know because it was one of my first cars(seafoam green). My oldest brother talked my Dad and Mom into buying one for themselves because of the gas mileage(my dad loved to save money:) After a few months it became the kids car and they went back to huge Oldsmobile/Lincolns again. They couldn't take the cramped quarters.

Exactly like this:




Almost got me through LSU- lasted until 87. It was put through a lot though.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
Member since Jan 2007
2423 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:38 am to
Only if that was my only means of transportation.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33501 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:45 am to
quote:

The 81 Accord hatchback


My second car was an 85 Accord hatchback. They uglified that thing and exhaust smelled like eggy farts but it was solid.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10284 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:47 am to
A 44 year old vehicle that you can still drive.

How many 2022 vehicles will you be able to drive 44 years from now? Survey says: zero. Way too many electronics that will fail and not be replaceable decades down the road.


This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 8:51 am
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3527 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:47 am to
Think a K20 or K24 would fit in there?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17156 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:48 am to
quote:

That's a BMW copy right there if I've even seen one.



Looks like every 1980s mid sized car to me, where the BMW has some distinctive styling.

Toyota Cressida - which actually has similar rear drive proportions as the BMW. It was more expensive than the Accord, so they weren't as popular. I kind of want one of these even right now.


Nissan Maxima - my favorite from this era of Japanese sedans. But a cut below the Cressida, but also much more difficult to find right now. More popular than the Cressida, but not as popular as the Accord.


Pontiac 6000 - A very good, affordable American car that was somewhat entertaining to drive. First of the solid GM A/W bodied front drive cars that they sold well into the 1990s. You can still find these for sale, especially with the 3800 V6. A manual version is very hard to find though. Wouldn't mind having one over the Accord, but I'd prefer the Cressida or Maxima.


Buick Century - Buick's smallest car was still bigger than the Accord. Except for the wire wheels, this thing looks a lot like the Accord or Maxima to me. Very boring. Never appealed to me.


The Americans had some mammoth sized boxy cars from this era, like the Caprice, Impala, LeSabre, Crown Victoria, and New Yorker. None were particularly stylish, but they all had very reliable, sturdy V8 engines and 3-4 speed slushboxes. But those had very different proportions than the above. Hard to believe that they were the downsized versions of what we saw in the 1970s.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
12307 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:49 am to
Pretty sure I owned a 78 or a 79.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10284 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:50 am to
quote:

the Accord's 13-inch steelies


Highlights how much bigger cars have gotten to keep up with our fat asses and appetites.

My car has 19" wheels on it, stock. Ridiculous.

Larger cars require larger wheels or they start looking weird.

Pulled up by a classic Mustang the other day and was reminded all over again how tiny some of those cars were back in the day.

Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
7532 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Think a K20 or K24 would fit in there?


You can fit anything into anything if you spit on it first
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63143 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:50 am to
That steering wheel will be so hot in July.
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