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WSJ OPINION COMMENTARY The High Cost of Disparaging Natural Immunity to Covid
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:08 am
Reposted without full article copied and pasted.
Highlights of article- I believe you have to subscribe for whole article. I'll try to link the full article posted elsewhere
WSJ link
From the WSJ.com:
Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
The High Cost of Disparaging Natural Immunity to Covid
Vaccines were wasted on those who didn’t need them, and people who posed no risk lost jobs.
But after two years of accruing data, the superiority of natural immunity over vaccinated immunity is clear. By firing staff with natural immunity, employers got rid of those least likely to infect others. It’s time to reinstate those employees with an apology.
Johns Hopkins colleagues and I conducted the study. We found that among 295 unvaccinated people who previously had Covid, antibodies were present in 99% of them up to nearly two years after infection. We also found that natural immunity developed from prior variants reduced the risk of infection with the Omicron variant.
The CDC study and ours confirm what more than 100 other studies on natural immunity have found: The immune system works.
For years, studies have shown that infection with the other coronaviruses that cause severe illness, SARS and MERS, confers lasting immunity. .
Highlights of article- I believe you have to subscribe for whole article. I'll try to link the full article posted elsewhere
WSJ link
From the WSJ.com:
Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
The High Cost of Disparaging Natural Immunity to Covid
Vaccines were wasted on those who didn’t need them, and people who posed no risk lost jobs.
But after two years of accruing data, the superiority of natural immunity over vaccinated immunity is clear. By firing staff with natural immunity, employers got rid of those least likely to infect others. It’s time to reinstate those employees with an apology.
Johns Hopkins colleagues and I conducted the study. We found that among 295 unvaccinated people who previously had Covid, antibodies were present in 99% of them up to nearly two years after infection. We also found that natural immunity developed from prior variants reduced the risk of infection with the Omicron variant.
The CDC study and ours confirm what more than 100 other studies on natural immunity have found: The immune system works.
For years, studies have shown that infection with the other coronaviruses that cause severe illness, SARS and MERS, confers lasting immunity. .
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:12 am to spacewrangler
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee incoming
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:13 am to spacewrangler
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:13 am to spacewrangler
WSJ is quickly becoming my favorite media outlet.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:15 am to spacewrangler
So what we should have done is protect those most vulnerable (elderly and immunodeficient) and encouraged THEM to isolate and reserved vaccines and treatments for them first and allowed the rest of the world (young and healthy) to go about their lives like normal?
Jeepers, I wonder I go anyone said that back in April 2020?
Jeepers, I wonder I go anyone said that back in April 2020?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:22 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:That's not what he said.
So what we should have done is protect those most vulnerable (elderly and immunodeficient) and encouraged THEM to isolate and reserved vaccines and treatments for them first and allowed the rest of the world (young and healthy) to go about their lives like normal?
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:27 am to Salviati
No but it was the right thing then and the right thing now.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:29 am to Oilfieldbiology
quote:
Jeepers, I wonder I go anyone said that back in April 2020?
I said it in March 2020
quote:
Take steps to protect the elderly. As far as the rest of us, there’s no reason we shouldn’t be able to go about things as usual taking steps we would normally take if we caught a virus. Stay home and chill till it’s over. Wash hands. Etc.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 11:47 am to Salviati
quote:
That's not what he said.
If you know who Dr. Marty Makary is you would know he's been calling for just that since 2020....
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:06 pm to spacewrangler
We are reinventing evolution, declining biology as it relates to human sexuality, and rewriting any history that makes us uncomfortable, so is anyone surprised by the disparaging of natural immunity.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:08 pm to High C
quote:
WSJ is quickly becoming my favorite media outlet.
Gotta stick to the Opinion page though. Their reporters are going on and on about Omicron just like every other news outlet.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:28 pm to furrydogs
quote:
We also found that natural immunity developed from prior variants reduced the risk of infection with the Omicron variant.
This is great news and also why LDH is focusing on reinfections but not focusing on vaccine breakthroughs.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:45 pm to High C
quote:
WSJ is quickly becoming my favorite media outlet.
I like it, but I don't get the cartoons. It's always just a guy's face with his name under the picture.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:53 pm to PowerTool
Better late than never, but wsj could have really used the balls back in say summer 2020 after the initial shock.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:34 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:That's a different subject.
No but it was the right thing then and the right thing now.
I'm reading what he said in this thread, and what he said is pretty simple to understand. People who have acquired natural immunity to Covid by prior infection are in a superior position with respect to Covid than people who have been vaccinated. People who have acquired natural immunity are less likely than vaccinated people to infect others, and it is a waste of resources to vaccinate them. In short, people with natural immunity should not be treated the same as people who have not been unvaccinated.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:40 pm to spacewrangler
I had the Vid in January 21. Had an antibody test in September. The results were pretty impressive. I had almost the maximum # in the scale. 235 or something like that.
I always felt natural obtained immunity was superior to vaccines.
I always felt natural obtained immunity was superior to vaccines.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:45 pm to Salviati
quote:Nah, a one sized fits all model created by retarded government bureaucrats and politicians is the best way to go about this.
In short, people with natural immunity should not be treated the same as people who have not been unvaccinated.
Don’t roll anything back. Make everyone who supported any of this suffer.
We need mandatory vaccines and severe mask wearing indefinitely.
Let’s keep this going forever.
Scruffy bets we can get to a 500% increase in childhood speech delay.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:49 pm to spacewrangler
Promotion of the vaccine never bothered me. I still think most adults should get the vaccine. I don't care if you don't, but I'd vote a half-hearted yes if you asked me.
Sacrificing truth to PROTECT the vaccine bothered me.
But disparaging the concept of immunity is one of many times in this saga where the powers that be showed their hand. Painting them in the absolute best light possible, they were knowingly dishonest because they didn't trust the people to make decisions on immunity vs. vax. So in the best case, the lied repeatedly because they know what's better for us (despite being proven wrong repeatedly). There is no question of wide scale dishonesty and gas lighting, the only question is whether there is a less-nefarious motivation for it.
Sacrificing truth to PROTECT the vaccine bothered me.
But disparaging the concept of immunity is one of many times in this saga where the powers that be showed their hand. Painting them in the absolute best light possible, they were knowingly dishonest because they didn't trust the people to make decisions on immunity vs. vax. So in the best case, the lied repeatedly because they know what's better for us (despite being proven wrong repeatedly). There is no question of wide scale dishonesty and gas lighting, the only question is whether there is a less-nefarious motivation for it.
Posted on 1/27/22 at 1:55 pm to spacewrangler
Grandma needs a better immune system
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