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Does wearing the long hair pieces slow you down?

Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Sal Minio
17th Street Canal
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:31 pm
Wouldn't the women track stars run faster without the hair pieces?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19975 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:41 pm to
yes, that would help. Not wearing jewelry would help too.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125383 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:43 pm to
Swag and keeping it real is more important than knocking a tenth of a second off of your time
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123526 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 1:45 pm to
I'll never understand all of hair and nails and jewelry.

Wouldn't you want every possible advantage you can possibly think of when races are decided by 100ths of a second?
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15533 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:07 pm to
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yes, that would help. Not wearing jewelry would help too.


I am sure they have measured if it makes a difference and I would venture a guess that it doesn't. If it cost a .10 they wouldn't do it. There is too much money on the line to do something that slows you down.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19975 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:13 pm to
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I am sure they have measured if it makes a difference and I would venture a guess that it doesn't. If it cost a .10 they wouldn't do it. There is too much money on the line to do something that slows you down.


it slows you down. It is simple physics. They just dont care enough to sacrifice looks for performance.

Would it be a huge difference? Hell no. But given how close so many races are these days I'd be taking every thousandth or hundredth of a second improvement I could get.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28314 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Wouldn't the women track stars run faster without the hair pieces?


This is what I wrote in an earlier thread:

quote:

Her hair produces a "boat tail" which reduces the strength of the longitudinal vortex reducing her coefficient of drag.

Her fake nails have the proper radius to become "air paddles" increasing her forward force.

Sometimes referred to as Black Girl Magic in track circles it is a subtle but effective form of cheating.

This form of cheating and the results can easily be seen in the careers and results of Flo Jo and JJK.



In seriousness, it is actually possible the hair actually spoils the longitudinal vortex and does provide some minuscule aero advantage but that would need some significant CFD modeling and verification in the wind tunnel.

The negative hair, nails and jewelry (actually being worn) won't produce a difference that is above the least count of timing and likely less than a frame of the camera used for the photo finish examination. It however can be a positive mentally for someone that is used to wearing them and the feel it gives them running.

I am definitely not a great golfer but I have worn a watch my entire life while playing golf. I feel odd and just off without one. When I started wearing mechanical watches which at least arguably don't like being subjected to the shocks encountered in golf I leave a quartz watch in my golf bag and switch them out when I play. The accoutrements some runners wear could be a negative on the clock but it would be measured in fractions of a millisecond, the positive in an elite athlete's head of being comfortable is potentially worth far more than that.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13132 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

The negative hair, nails and jewelry (actually being worn) won't produce a difference that is above the least count of timing and likely less than a frame of the camera used for the photo finish examination. It however can be a positive mentally for someone that is used to wearing them and the feel it gives them running.

I am definitely not a great golfer but I have worn a watch my entire life while playing golf. I feel odd and just off without one. When I started wearing mechanical watches which at least arguably don't like being subjected to the shocks encountered in golf I leave a quartz watch in my golf bag and switch them out when I play. The accoutrements some runners wear could be a negative on the clock but it would be measured in fractions of a millisecond, the positive in an elite athlete's head of being comfortable is potentially worth far more than that.



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75214 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 3:24 pm to
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This form of cheating and the results can easily be seen in the careers and results of Flo Jo and JJK.


1. What rules does this break?

2. Wasn’t Flo Jo geared to the gills?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28314 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 4:08 pm to
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1. What rules does this break?


Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40636 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:45 pm to
Math says .004 seconds if you had big, full head of long hair vs. close cropped or bald. For jewelry it's .001 for a 10 gram chain


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This post was edited on 8/13/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12725 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 6:51 pm to
Yeah, the track & field women really underperformed in Paris.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19751 posts
Posted on 8/13/24 at 8:59 pm to
To make sure everyone out there knows that “people who look like me” can be successful to
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20179 posts
Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:22 am to
Fun fact, the guy who wrote that article is a professor at Southeastern
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