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re: Gymnastics - Simone Biles dominant again

Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:53 pm to
Bunch of XL Columbia shirt wearing dudes in 40x28 size wranglers talking about Biles and letting down America

The Biles that has brought the USA 7 medals, 4 of them being Gold

If a war broke out her mentally fragile self would at least have the cardiovascular output capable of helping out
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 4:54 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:48 pm to
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The Biles that has brought the USA 7 medals, 4 of them being Gold

That's the thing to me as well. If you are calling an Olympic gold medalist mentally weak, you better have a few gold medals hanging on your trophy shelf.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:01 pm to
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She's played (and won) through pain you couldn't even imagine.
I'd bet I could imagine quite a bit.

She also quit on her team and her country.

Dad taught me as a kid that quitting is habit forming. He told me that quitting tells you more about a person's character than winning does.

Two bits of wisdom I carried with me for decades
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Dad taught me as a kid that quitting is habit forming. He told me that quitting tells you more about a person's character than winning does.

So show us all the accolades you've won for your country. If you didn't quit before Biles did you surely have more. In your opinion she quit after 4 gold medals, so you surely have at least 5 if you never quit.

Or did you quit before you ever reached the level she did?
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:29 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:45 pm to
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Dad taught me as a kid that quitting is habit forming.
Did you make it pro or to the Olympics in any sport?

No? Ok. Are you still trying? No again

Well then you quit
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:46 pm to
I guess he thinks Olympic athletes just wake up in the Olympics one day.

Also he mustve missed the point of this thread that Biles once again won the overall.

Crazy how she is still winning if she quit 4 years ago.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:15 pm to
She had 4 golds and a silver at last year’ World Championship as well
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:44 pm to
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Did you make it pro or to the Olympics in any sport?

No? Ok. Are you still trying? No again

Never quit on any team I was a part of. . .

What she did was as bad as what Scottie Pippen did. . .

. . .Pssst, I don't have to have played in the NBA to call out that quitter, either.
Posted by RobbBobb
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:47 pm to
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This was not about her being below the normal level of performance

Just shut up already. She said it was. The vault was the last straw for her. In her OWN WORDS
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The trouble started in the early days of her competition, when Biles struggled through a number of individual events. “I was not physically capable,” she said. “Every avenue we tried, my body was like, ‘Simone, chill. Sit down. We’re not doing it.’ And I’ve never experienced that.”

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“I should have quit way before Tokyo, when Larry Nassar was in the media for two years,” Biles said. “It was too much. But I was not going to let him take something I’ve worked for since I was 6 years old. I wasn’t going to let him take that joy away from me.

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she removed herself from the team finals to focus on her mental health. She returned to earn a bronze medal on beam but told the committee the lingering trauma from her abuse at the hands of Nassar played a factor in her decision to opt out

I watched Willis Reed and Larry Bird struggle under obvious physical pain to deliver for their team mates. Thats what elite athletes do.

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Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:48 pm to
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Willis Reed
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:38 pm to
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I watched Willis Reed and Larry Bird struggle under obvious physical pain to deliver for their team mates. Thats what elite athletes do.

Willis Reed bailed on his teammates by sitting out game 6? what a quitter

Larry Bird only played 45 games out of 82 his final year? jeez he really let his team down. Roaads dad wouldve told him dont start the season if he couldn't finish it and called him a quitter. He took someone else's roster spot.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 9:01 pm
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Also he mustve missed the point of this thread that Biles once again won the overall.


Doesn’t erase the fact that she quit on her team before lol

Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:21 pm to
You keep responding to everyone somehow thinking that whatever you say will magically make it fiction that biles did indeed quit on her team and acknowledged that she should not have even been there because she was struggling with the pressure to compete lol
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:28 pm to
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Just shut up already. She said it was.

Ah, the argument by insult. So compelling and persuasive. She scored over 60 in the all-around on Day 1 of trials. During qualifications at the Olympics she had the highest all-around score.
Nowhere in her comments is she referring to scores, which is what several comments have alluded to and what I'm addressing in the comment you cite.

As for the team final, Biles "told journalists earlier that day that she was "having a little bit of the twisties"". That's from a BBC article from the Olympics.

From a month ago on NBC's site:
Biles explained at the time that the “twisties” is when a gymnast loses spatial awareness midair and can’t judge when and where to land.

"So I open landed like that, and as soon as I land, I kind of grin, and I’m like, 'S---,'" she said in the preview clip.




It's like she got lost in the air
Got lost in the air
Podium training
Multiple gymnasts that watched her were able to see she didn't know where she was in the air, and she confirmed that. When you watch the podium training video, she does the world's hardest vault incredibly well, then in competition she has no air awareness.
Post event presser
She says here she didn't want to 'do something silly out there' and get hurt and also jeopardize the team scores.

She was struggling for a while, yet she kept at it, which is what everyone wants her to do, except when they change the position and say she should have pulled out for the good of the team, yet she was the highest scoring gymnast in the world, so leaving prior to Tokyo would have been seen as hurting the team - then when she can't figure out where she is in the air and is a danger to herself and the team scores, that's not good enough either.

If you want to chastise her for not getting things squared away at the first sign of trouble well before Tokyo - that is harsh IMO, but a fair point to bring up. You could say that is simply a failure to get yourself in the right place as a competitor. But it's obvious that she kept grinding leading up to Tokyo and tried to make it work. And at the team final, it was simply stupid to stay in the competition at that point.
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:32 pm to
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you want to chastise her for not getting things squared away at the first sign of trouble well before Tokyo - that is harsh IMO, but a fair point to bring up. You could say that is simply a failure to get yourself in the right place as a competitor. But it's obvious that she kept grinding leading up to Tokyo and tried to make it work. And at the team final, it was simply stupid to stay in the competition at that point.


Because her ego absolutely could not handle not going to the Olympics, even it was the best move for her health. She knew she was struggling but no way was she going to sit at home and not have the focus on her. It would be eating her alive if she was home and not in Tokyo with her goat outfit on and seeing her team do well without her. That would have been wayyyy worse for her than going, and quitting on the team while out there.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:47 pm to
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Because her ego absolutely could not handle not going to the Olympics, even it was the best move for her health. She knew she was struggling but no way was she going to sit at home and not have the focus on her. It would be eating her alive if she was home and not in Tokyo with her goat outfit on and seeing her team do well without her. That would have been wayyyy worse for her than going, and quitting on the team while out there.


This is something that applies well before Tokyo - and you might be right. Honestly I don't know.

If she announced prior to Olympic trials, or maybe at the conclusion of trials that she needed to deal with health issues - would you still be criticizing her for quitting or bailing on her team? She was the world's best gymnast, despite those issues she was dealing with. Seems to me that people would have still gone after her and said 'suck it up' because of the scores she was getting. There never seems to be a right answer for her in this situation.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 9:54 am to
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Bunch of XL Columbia shirt wearing dudes in 40x28 size wranglers talking about Biles and letting down America

The Biles that has brought the USA 7 medals, 4 of them being Gold

If a war broke out her mentally fragile self would at least have the cardiovascular output capable of helping out


Not to mention the dozens of Gold she's brought home for the USA in world championships. She's the greatest gymnast of all time and she represents the USA, yet old boomers that love their country so much hate her for ONE thing she did.

She could have retired a long time ago and still went down as not only the greatest gymnast ever, but one of the greatest Olympians ever. Yet she is still out there working her arse off and will dominate at the upcoming Olympics... for team USA.

Curious if these douche bags that love America so much will be rooting against America at the Olympics this year. Because that's what you'd be doing if you're rooting against Biles.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 9:55 am
Posted by Corinthians420
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 10:48 am to
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You keep responding to everyone somehow thinking that whatever you say will magically make it fiction

I'm not trying to convince anyone. Im laughing at the idiot that was shitting on Biles for "quitting on her team" and taking someone else's roster spot then using Larry bird as an example of how to do things right for playing 45 games out of an 82 game season and "taking someone else's roster spot".

It's on the coaches to decide whether or not someone goes, u cant blame an athlete for trying to see if they can play when they are still arguably the greatest in the world
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 10:54 am
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 11:03 am to
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she couldn't perform safely.


I do agree that if she had the gymnastics version of the yips then not participating for her own safety is an ok choice but people acting like she was hero for quitting was ridiculous.

Having sympathy for her? Sure, I can see it.

Acting like she's a hero? No shot.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:35 pm to
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She’s still very good
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