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Mako vs Carolina vs Micro Skiffs
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:30 pm
Hey all, I've been on a wait for Micro Skiff (ankona cayenne) for a while and I'm running out of patience.
I have a few limiting requirements:
- I can only fit a little over 19' in my driveway
- I want to get in skinny water that my kayak can get into (about 1' with the fins down)
- Need it to be light enough for my Rav4 to tow
I grew up hearing great things about Carolina skiffs, but haven't heard a lot about them lately. I do see a lot about Makos, but I also hear bad things about the company that owns Makos.
What do y'all say? Are Carolina and Mako skiffs no good or are they worth looking into?
Thanks fellas.
I have a few limiting requirements:
- I can only fit a little over 19' in my driveway
- I want to get in skinny water that my kayak can get into (about 1' with the fins down)
- Need it to be light enough for my Rav4 to tow
I grew up hearing great things about Carolina skiffs, but haven't heard a lot about them lately. I do see a lot about Makos, but I also hear bad things about the company that owns Makos.
What do y'all say? Are Carolina and Mako skiffs no good or are they worth looking into?
Thanks fellas.
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:34 pm to dandyjohn
You plan on using a Trolling motor? Poking? By yourself or two man?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:46 pm to jimbeam
No matter what if I'm by myself I'll just be using the trolling motor, but honestly, the whole poling thing is a bit much to me unless I'm in Florida which is only like twice a year.
So mostly just using the outboard to get to flats and shallows and then trolling from there.
One thing I like about the cayenne is how it handles chop, so that would be a concern for me with the Carolina or Makos, but not a huge concern.
So mostly just using the outboard to get to flats and shallows and then trolling from there.
One thing I like about the cayenne is how it handles chop, so that would be a concern for me with the Carolina or Makos, but not a huge concern.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:47 pm to dandyjohn
I had a Carolina Skiff 198DLV. Wettest riding boat I have ever been on, but I miss it for sure. You can get shallow like you want, has lots of deck space and was easy to maintain/clean out.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:49 pm to dandyjohn
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Need it to be light enough for my Rav4 to tow
You probably already know this, but aluminum is going to be lighter.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:56 pm to Shexter
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but aluminum is going to be lighter.
And louder
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:58 pm to Shexter
I grew up with aluminum jon boats and that's probably turning me off of aluminum in general.
So I have to be honest, I don't know if there are any modern aluminum hulls I'd like.
So I have to be honest, I don't know if there are any modern aluminum hulls I'd like.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 1:59 pm to way_south
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Wettest riding boat I have ever been on, but I miss it for sure.
Yeah I think a lot of the micro skiffs I look at would be pretty wet rides too. Why do you miss that carolina skiff though and what do you have now?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:14 pm to dandyjohn
I had a Carolina J16 and loved it. I used it for duck hunting and general fishing. Yes it could be a wet ride, but I could get in places I never thought it would go. I miss the hell out of that boat, and the only reason I sold it was I had three kids, so it tended to get cramped.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:15 pm to dandyjohn
Ankona Cayenne owner here ... just be patient, it will be worth the wait. Owned ours for 3.5 years now.
It’s a shallow water skiff that can do just what you described and provides some flexibility. I’ve fished three comfortably (two at one time fly fishing comfortably).
It’s not a bay boat by any stretch but does handle larger water well for its design.
Also, the customer support with Ankona is second to none.
The only complaint I have is that it is a wet boat in certain seas (and there’s not much you can do about it) but that’s fishing in larger water when the wind kicks up.
Very good boat for the price, you will fish in the same waters as the Hells Bays, Maverick, etc. for less than 1/2 the price.
Mako today - not your grandpa’s mako. Looked closely at these before buying a used Cayenne. Didn’t feel comfortable with the quality and didn’t believe the boat would do any one thing particularly well. Also concerned about lack of customer support if there was a warranty issue.
I’d buy an older used Mako (from the late 70s) and find a fiberglass shop to restore and then repower before buying a new Mako skiff.
Carolina Skiff - great value boat to get on the water. Quality is not great ... but you aren’t paying for it. Also rough ride. We had a Polar skiff growing up. That boat would beat you up in the smallest of chop.
Very comfortable to fish in once you were in place, lots of deck space.
Also doesn’t handle well, the boat would skid across the surface on sharp turns.
Of the three listed, wait for a Cayenne or look for a Salt Marsh Heron.
It’s a shallow water skiff that can do just what you described and provides some flexibility. I’ve fished three comfortably (two at one time fly fishing comfortably).
It’s not a bay boat by any stretch but does handle larger water well for its design.
Also, the customer support with Ankona is second to none.
The only complaint I have is that it is a wet boat in certain seas (and there’s not much you can do about it) but that’s fishing in larger water when the wind kicks up.
Very good boat for the price, you will fish in the same waters as the Hells Bays, Maverick, etc. for less than 1/2 the price.
Mako today - not your grandpa’s mako. Looked closely at these before buying a used Cayenne. Didn’t feel comfortable with the quality and didn’t believe the boat would do any one thing particularly well. Also concerned about lack of customer support if there was a warranty issue.
I’d buy an older used Mako (from the late 70s) and find a fiberglass shop to restore and then repower before buying a new Mako skiff.
Carolina Skiff - great value boat to get on the water. Quality is not great ... but you aren’t paying for it. Also rough ride. We had a Polar skiff growing up. That boat would beat you up in the smallest of chop.
Very comfortable to fish in once you were in place, lots of deck space.
Also doesn’t handle well, the boat would skid across the surface on sharp turns.
Of the three listed, wait for a Cayenne or look for a Salt Marsh Heron.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:18 pm to stewie
you want a flat boat, probably a 16x60
Posted on 9/28/20 at 2:28 pm to dandyjohn
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Are Carolina and Mako skiffs no good or are they worth looking into?
I'd wait for Cayenne over a carolina skiff or new mako. Now if we are talking older mako then thats a different story. I have been looking for an older Mako 16 or 17 flats model. GrandSlam and Silver King both made skiffs with the same hull design.
I'm roughly in the situation regarding size constraints. I have a 20ft x 9ft. patch to park a boat on. I've been looking at Hewes Redfishers, Maverick Master Anglers, Mako (like one in pic), Action Craft, Scout, etc..
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:06 pm to stewie
Yeah Stewie, everything you said is everything I hear.
But damn the wait is crazy. I almost got a native so I could have it by fall, but I heard it has some pretty bad bow steer issues.
I went out Sunday in the yak and found a good bit of specs after a few hours of fishing. It was great, but it also showed me I don't care so much about the fancy boats, I just need to get to spots.
I also have zero patience, so that's probably all there is to this.
But damn the wait is crazy. I almost got a native so I could have it by fall, but I heard it has some pretty bad bow steer issues.
I went out Sunday in the yak and found a good bit of specs after a few hours of fishing. It was great, but it also showed me I don't care so much about the fancy boats, I just need to get to spots.
I also have zero patience, so that's probably all there is to this.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:44 pm to dandyjohn
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I almost got a native
I was literally about to put down a deposit on a native when a 6 month old Cayenne popped up for sale.
No regrets here.
I’d suggest keeping an eye out on microskiff dot com If you really want something now. Good deals on various skiffs pop up often there.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 3:55 pm to dandyjohn
How much you looking to spend?
I know of a custom 18/50 with a 70 yam on the back possible for sale.
I know of a custom 18/50 with a 70 yam on the back possible for sale.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:04 pm to GREENHEAD22
18' is probably too long for me. Need boat, motor, trailer to get under 19'6"
Posted on 9/28/20 at 5:45 pm to dandyjohn
Skate/Nano is a slick little rig
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:05 pm to MrCoachKlein
Yeah, I love them.
If I only had one nephew instead of two, I'd probably get one.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 7:46 pm to dandyjohn
Just got in line for a heron. If it is what you really want then I would wait. Should be a really good boat for our waters. Check out Jon Miller's review on YouTube
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:03 pm to dandyjohn
Modern aluminum/foam hulls are MUCH quieter than a Jon boat. They have extruded beams that are very strong and light. I would prefer a glass boat if money were no option but I can't ignore the value and progress that has been made with aluminum boats.
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