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re: CNN – It’s a Conspiracy Theory to Say That America is a Republic and Not a Democracy
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Jan 6th, "Our Democracy" started the basic bitch defense of the term.
No, Roger. This was around during George Bush (and I imagine prior to that, but I was a wee lad during Reagan's time).
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We do have a "democratic" type of system, but Republic explains it far better than Democracy.
Democracy is fricking lazy.
Certainly we’re a Republic, a democratically elected and represented Republic, but certainly a far cry from a pure direct democracy or else we would have no Constitutional rights at this point, or rather none that were safe.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:28 am to Mike da Tigah
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but certainly a far cry from a pure direct democracy or else we would have no Constitutional rights at this point,
Correct. "Our Democracy" the J-6 soy boy craze started all of this stupidity.
If you have constitutional protections, you dont have a pure democracy.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:38 am to hashtag
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this is why people are going so hard after the liberal, SFP. He hasn't really demonstrated Americas political system incorrectly in this thread. What he HAS done is gaslighted how today's liberals and Democrats use the word Democracy and then feined ignorance.
Everyone in this thread, including SFP, knows that today's liberals ignore the word Republic and push the word Democracy with different intent than what SFP is displaying. But, he's attempting to gaslight everyone in this thread into accepting the term democracy by redefining how it is supposedly being used.
THIS is the best description I've read in here today. SFP is simping for the "our democracy' banality of the Democrat party. The sad fact is that the version of "our democracy" they really want is more like the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea."
We know it - The Dem leadership knows it - the Dem donor base know it - the majority of the media know it - SFP, et al know it - and they know that WE know it. They just haven't quite sealed the deal to enable them to just come out and admit it. They are maybe only ONE 'election" away from achieving it.
Meanwhile, SFP acts as like need to treat this message board as if we were reviewing the final draft of a Real Estate Contract.
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It isn't going to work.
I pray you are correct - I fear I will not live long enough to find out.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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I was a wee lad during Reagan's time).
The term democracy was rarely used by politicians back then and prior. Democrats decided in the last 25 years or so that they didn’t like that whole Constitutional republic thing so they started harping on Muh democracy and their mockingbird media ran with it. Now millions of their followers believe they should be able to just vote on anything and the rules and processes created by the Republican form of government are oppressive.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:40 am to ChineseBandit58
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SFP is simping for the "our democracy' banality of the Democrat party.
Yes, by criticizing it openly I am "simping" for it
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:41 am to Penrod
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Penrodquote
How does SFP’s dick taste?
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:42 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Democrats decided in the last 25 years or so that they didn’t like that whole Constitutional republic thing
Yet, simpville thinks its a conspiracy theory to use the correct terminology.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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by criticizing it openly I am "simping" for it
Well - Bless your pore heart.
And I say that with all the derision and disgust I can conjure up.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
Democratic Republic = you cannot take away my guns asa God-given Right to defend my individual freedom and personal security. Pure Democracy = we can vote to take your guns if we deem such in the common interest, as defined by Us. There is helluva difference in those two, and it extends to everything. Even and especially the indoctrination of our children into all manner of Godless and perverse ideologies. While opening the jails and Border to all manner of sociopathic and heathen invasion. Thomas Sowell nailed it, and talk re this subject is counterproductive if not overtly inflammatory.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:45 am to ChineseBandit58
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Well - Bless your pore heart.
Did your straw man being set on fire hurt that badly?
You were just caught literally lying. I will re-post, again, quotes by me ITT:
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the histrionics relating to attacking our democracy are clearly overblown partisan talking points
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The left always preaches "muh democracy" so the people who construct NPC talking points created this response that idiots think is a great gotcha ("we are a republic, not a democracy").
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:47 am to thebigmuffaletta
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The term democracy was rarely used by politicians back then and prior.
You would get corrected if you used it like the Progs use it today.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:47 am to RCDfan1950
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Democratic Republic = you cannot take away my guns asa God-given Right to defend my individual freedom and personal security.
No. That's a constitutional form of government.
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Pure Democracy
Nobody was using this term except people responding to ghost comments that don't exist.
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Pure Democracy = we can vote to take your guns if we deem such in the common interest, as defined by Us.
This isn't actually even accurate, because it depend son the limits of power based in a possible constitution.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
We are a republic, the management of which is facilitated by indirect democracy. That matters.
True democracy has been recognized since the time of Aristotle as an abomination.
True democracy has been recognized since the time of Aristotle as an abomination.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:52 am to Placekicker
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands...
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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Pure Democracy
Nobody was using this term except people responding to ghost comments that don't exist.
There it is. The Democratic Authoritarian Left will NOT overtly state that it is their intention to disregard (think nullify) God-given Individual, Constitutional Rights, because that would NULLIFY the whole System. They strategize to exploit the Constitutional System in order to "FUNDAMENTALLY change" it. That is a half truth, false advertising and pernicious as to the trust that such who purvey this should be accorded.
"He that is faithful in little, is faithful in much". Never trust a liar.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 11:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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You were just caught literally lying. I will re-post, again, quotes by me ITT:
OMFG - bless yore pore pore heart - you need someone in your life to give you a hug once in a while whether you deserve one or not.
I think I'm done with you today. I'll just leave you with the truth of the matter - you are quibbling over definitional crap that does no good in furthering any argument on either side. Everyone, but perhaps you, knows the IDEAs behind both sides of the argument. Nobody needs your nit-picking of official word definition ------ Democrats have not cared for the actual definition of words in well over half a century - and we are discussing IDEAs and MOTIVEs and RESULTs - and we ID the opposing sides of the 'argument' with "progressive (democracy) vs republic" Nobody is confused about what the basic argument it.
You have created a dozen pages of clap-trap - the motive for which is to dilute the discussion of ideas.
I am done with you - but - bless yore pore heart.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/15/24 at 12:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
What's hilarious is that the "democracy" which SFP has been simping for this entire thread isn't even actual democracy. Western leftists don't actually respect the will of people. Look at the recent EU parliamentary elections. The establishment is now telling us that democratic election results are a threat to "our democracy". Our democracy is simply a euphemism for the neoliberal power structure.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ever heard of the Pledge of Allegiance? You might want to read it.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 1:29 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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The founders left it out because they specifically did not want a democracy. Because they knew that would mean mob rule.
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