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re: CNN – It’s a Conspiracy Theory to Say That America is a Republic and Not a Democracy

Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:11 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:11 am to
There is democracy on the federal level:

Art 1, Sec. 2:

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No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.


Art 1, Sec 3:

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No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.


Art. 1, Sec 6:

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No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.


That even distinguishes 2 types of republics (a democratic system and one of appointments).

etc etc etc
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:12 am to
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Why do theu want a democracy?


Because poor people vote Democrat.

If poor people voted Republican, they would hate "democracy."
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:12 am to
You are such a whiny bitch. I bet you never let an argument go like a scorn woman. Again, you are not the smartest person in the room.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:12 am to
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We are a form of democracy. We aren’t a democracy.



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Let me know the last time you voted on a federal bill.

I voted for people who vote on bills, which is a democracy and a republic in action.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:13 am to
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I voted for people who vote on bills, which is a democracy and a republic in action.
You're in the right profession and exude every reason people hate lawyers.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:14 am to
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It's insulting and divisionist to label Americans who know we are a Republic "conspiracy theorists."

Their partisan NPC talking points aren't excused because of MAGA's partisan NPC talking points.

It's just 2 different versions of NPC talking points.
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:14 am to
We basically have mob rule now…since we’re expected to cater the 13% AA community, the 1% Alphabet community
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12725 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:14 am to
The Progressives have figured out having all their voters live in cities leads to conservatives controlling the Senate (eventually).

Which is exactly how the founding fathers set things up to create balance in government.

But the left doesn’t want balance it wants total control.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:15 am to
How do democracies select their highest leader??

popular vote?? === that is very definition of a 'democracy'

electoral collage vote?? ==== that fits the definition of a republic.

What the DEMs are angling for is to treat the "popular" vote as the SUPREME determinant in selecting the POTUS - they want to ELIMINATE the CONSTITUTIONALLY defined Electoral Collage

DEMOCRATS are the anti-constitutional party - They see the CONSTITUTION as an IMPEDIMENT to their agenda. They would LOVE to just have a batch of BALLOTs determine EVERY issue in the future.

You know that - they know that - we know that - it is a very simple fact to understand.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72824 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:15 am to
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I voted for people who vote on bills, which is a democracy and a republic in action.


Well you voted for Kanye. An outspoken racist.

If we lived in your democracy Hillary would have been president.

This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:15 am to
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You're in the right profession and exude every reason people hate lawyers.


Understanding 1st grade civics has nothing to do with being a lawyer.
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:16 am to
Except one "talking point" is the truth and one is a load of horseshite by people who failed Civics and unjustifiably have an elitist attitude.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:16 am to
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electoral collage vote?? ==== that fits the definition of a republic.


vote means it's a democracy, too.

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What the DEMs are angling for is to treat the "popular" vote as the SUPREME determinant in selecting the POTUS - they want to ELIMINATE the CONSTITUTIONALLY defined Electoral Collage

That's a different argument altogether, Mr. caps lock.

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DEMOCRATS are the anti-constitutional party -

The Constitutional nature of our government is a 3rd concept.

Since people are having trouble ITT with 2 basic ones (democracy, republic), le'ts not confuse them by injecting a 3rd.
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
402 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:17 am to
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There is democracy on the federal level:

Art 1, Sec. 2:

quote:
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.


Art 1, Sec 3:

quote:
No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.


Art. 1, Sec 6:

quote:
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.


That even distinguishes 2 types of republics (a democratic system and one of appointments).

etc etc etc


I’m afraid someone doesn’t know that the 17th amendment didn’t exist before Art 1, Sec 2,3, and 6. Senators were not popularly elected.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:18 am to
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Except one "talking point" is the truth

Saying we are not a democracy is not the truth, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Again: do you vote to participate in government? If so, then we're a democracy.

Are we a direct democracy? No. Just as a republican democracy is one version of democracy, a direct democracy is another version of democracy. Nobody has claimed that we're a direct democracy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268526 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:18 am to
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DEMOCRATS are the anti-constitutional party


Funny, we learned in 9th grade civics years ago that Democracies lack constitutions.

We were taught that we have a Democratic form of govt which is called a Republic.

I agree its Democratic, but to call it a Democracy is lacking substance.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:19 am to
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I’m afraid someone doesn’t know that the 17th amendment didn’t exist before Art 1, Sec 2,3, and 6. Senators were not popularly elected.


You should have read it all

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That even distinguishes 2 types of republics (a democratic system and one of appointments).
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3350 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:19 am to
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Understanding 1st grade civics has nothing to do with being a lawyer.
I would say you shouldn't be a lawyer if you don't understand this aspect of Civics. You're picking a component of the whole out as a defense for your asinine statements when it doesn't represent the whole.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268526 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:20 am to
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If we lived in your democracy Hillary would have been president.


Direct elections are easier to manipulate.

Progressives are pushing the "Democracy" as fear porn. Its no secret they hate the electoral college and want to have a direct vote for POTUS
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72824 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 8:20 am to
In direct democracy, the people decide on policies without any intermediary or representative, whereas in a representative democracy people vote for representatives who then enact policy initiatives.


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The United States is a representative democracy.



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By definition, a republic is a representative form of government that is ruled according to a charter, or constitution, and a democracy is a government that is ruled according to the will of the majority. Although these forms of government are often confused, they are quite different.



Derp
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 8:23 am
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