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Did POTUS Trump Encourage Johnson's Decision To Help Ukraine?

Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:25 am
Posted by Timeoday
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:25 am
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The former president said during a CNN townhall last year that his priority is to stop the killing in Ukraine.

I believe Trump’s determination to do this and his decisive presidential leadership could end the Russia-Ukraine War fairly quickly.

But for Trump to end the war, Ukraine has to make it through 2024. Mike Johnson risked his speakership to give the former former president a chance to do this.


POTUS Trump Will END It!!

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:26 am to
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Mike Johnson risked his speakership to give the former former president a chance to do this.


bullshite...

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:27 am to
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It’s been clear for a long time that, despite all the populist proclamations, Donald Trump’s view on aid for Ukraine aligns with the establishment position: the cash must flow, one way or another. That’s not what his supporters want to hear, but after this weekend, there’s no evading it.

On Saturday, the House passed a massive aid package, shepherded against the opposition by Speaker Mike Johnson with House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries. It had the support of all Democrats but just less than half of Republicans and includes billions of dollars in “economic assistance” for Ukraine in the form of “forgivable loans.” That is to say, it’s money that doesn’t have to be repaid. It’s a farce, and everyone knows it.

But here’s the key detail missing from all the right-wing outrage on Twitter now: Johnson collaborated with the Democrats in the House to ram through this package at Trump’s behest.

The “loan” was Trump’s idea, and Trump told Johnson to get behind it. That’s why Johnson, for now, acts like he is bulletproof amid calls from other Republicans for his defenestration. Johnson knows that the leader of the party is in his corner. Indeed, as demands for Johnson’s head rang out, Trump defended the speaker in an interview with radio host John Fredericks.

“I think he’s a very good person,” Trump said, and declined to criticize him over Ukraine funding.

That was a lifeline for Johnson.

“Trump’s comments could help stave off a conservative rebellion against Johnson as [Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga." target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer"> continues to take aim at the Louisiana Republican’s policy decision, accusing him of supporting Democrat priorities,” Axios reported. And Johnson is doing just that—with Trump’s approval. Indeed, the D.C. insiders at Punchbowl News called Joe Biden the “winner of this Congress” on Monday.

Again, if you’re online—an awful place to be—you’re probably following people who either don’t know why all this is happening or don’t want to mention it. It’s easier to blame Johnson than tell hard truths, even though this should be an easy one to tell. All the evidence is right there.

The story starts in February, when Trump wrote on Truth Social that no money “in the form of foreign aid should be given to any country unless it is done as a loan.”

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Within days, GOP senators were in contact with Trump about the proposal. Lindsey Graham swiftly swung behind the idea, calling on his colleagues to “listen to President Trump” and fall in line. Meanwhile, Trump quickly began publicly pitching a forgivable loan for Ukraine.

“Give them the money, and if they can pay it back, they pay it back,” he said at a South Carolina rally. By early March, Graham was openly confident that the deal was all but done.

In an interview with “Meet the Press” on March 10, Graham explained how Trump—not Johnson—conceived of the loan idea and said that Trump would soon meet with Johnson about it. “Trump told you he’s gonna reach out to the speaker?” asked host Kristen Welker, confirming Graham’s statement.

“Yes,” Graham replied.

Johnson met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago on April 12. Johnson was already under fire at that time, but Trump rescued him.

“I stand with the speaker,” Trump said at a Mar-a-Lago press conference with Johnson beside him. Trump added that Johnson was “doing a really good job.”

Two days after Trump and Johnson met, as Graham said they would, Johnson announced that he would aggressively push for an aid package, one that would include a loan for Ukraine.

The Wall Street Journal confirmed that Trump and Johnson not only discussed the details of the aid package when they met, but that Trump blessed it.

How Trump saved Ukraine aid.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:29 am to
Agreed. I like Trump and the job he did, but I would chalk that up to "WTC Trump"
Posted by loogaroo
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:32 am to
They know how unpopular it is. They are trying to tie Trump to it.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22178 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:35 am to
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hey know how unpopular it is. They are trying to tie Trump to it.

That is exactly what they are trying to do. While at the same time, no mention that Biden supports even MORE Ukraine War aid with no policy for diplomacy.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:03 am to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11180 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:06 am to
Huge L for Trump. Should have stood his ground and he should be dragging Lindsey Graham every day.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73779 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:12 am to
According to a Bernie Bro and Miss Lindsey yes
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:48 am to
I hope everyone noticed that article was an opinion piece on that web site.
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:55 am to
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and his decisive presidential leadership

Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15190 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:58 am to
Trump is coming around to Ukraine. Many other Republicans are as well. Just like I’ve been telling yall, Trump will support Ukraine, which is what yall should want anyways, especially since it would show that Trump really isn’t a Putin asset. Sorry Putin lovers. Trump will destroy Putin.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12839 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:01 pm to
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They are trying to tie Trump to it.



Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30692 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:02 pm to
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Trump will destroy Putin.


The GOPe just made that and stopping the war almost impossible for 5 years.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53409 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:04 pm to
The spin and dancing around is incredible.
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Posted by WonTonDonWon
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:07 pm to
Outside of Dumps base (which is ever dwindling), Ukraine support is very popular.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53409 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:08 pm to
Our country is falling apart. Nobody outside of DC cares about Kiev or cokehead Z.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1114 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:12 pm to
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They know how unpopular it is. They are trying to tie Trump to it.


Trump may be trying to keep the peace within the Party for now. He did that with Ryan too. What I want to see is the difference POST election.

Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12839 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:13 pm to
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The spin and dancing around is incredible.



The constant recycling of lame excuses
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9183 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:32 pm to
Below explains in depth the reason why Johnson flipped and turned on Americans.
The article in the link goes deep. I encourage reading it.


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This is more than a little interesting and aligns with my own research and discussions. House Speaker Mike Johnson was lobbied by former CIA Director Mike Pompeo and current officials from the CIA, DNI and Intelligence Community.

This effort, and his son starting at the Naval Academy, is what changed Johnson’s mind about allowing the U.S. intelligence community to have his full support in the IC war against the American people.




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