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Dire wolf cloning — let’s clone a gay & see if it’s Nature or Nurture

Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by CalDawg
Member since Aug 2016
1559 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:49 pm
Ethics aside for this absolutely simplistic hypothetical.

Clone a gay & raise in a controlled environment — nuclear family, loving, supportive, good education…or whatever situation is polar opposite of the original.

Still gay?

Don’t know, but we could know, couldn’t we? Should we?

Biological determinism vs Cultural imprinting.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4784 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:49 pm to
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let’s clone a gay


Are you volunteering?
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15009 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:51 pm to
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Are you volunteering?



Hehehehe
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59146 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Are you volunteering?


Bro brought the smoke
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
4429 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:55 pm to
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let’s clone a gay


Are you volunteering?


That cut down to the white meat. Someone call a medic.
Posted by MikeyWM97
Pineville
Member since Aug 2022
346 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:07 pm to
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let’s clone a gay

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Are you volunteering?


Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8368 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:08 pm to
I do believe that homosexuality is a mental illness on the same spectrum as transgenderism. Whether someone can be born with mental illness is another question. So cloning might not sort that out.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19245 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Clone a gay & raise in a controlled environment — nuclear family, loving, supportive, good education…or whatever situation is polar opposite of the original.


No need to waste the money. Based on your criteria, already provable with siblings who had the same loving family, same support, same education
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
3854 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:12 pm to
I don’t know, I know one dude from growing up, and we pretty much knew he was a future flamer since kindergarten, and we were right. Maybe some learn it and some are predisposed?
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
6099 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:12 pm to
The closet cases in this thread lol
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
21596 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:42 pm to
Maybe they were all gay at the end and that’s why they went extinct.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
4608 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:49 pm to

We already have human clones raised in controlled environments - they are called identical twins and they are frequently studied for the nature v. nurture topic.

IIRC, identical twin sexual preference showed a strong but not complete correlation - ie, if one identical twin was gay then there was a 50% chance the other was, meaning that genetics play a role but are not determinative.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96479 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:54 pm to
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let’s clone a gay Are you volunteering?


Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45410 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:05 pm to
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I do believe that homosexuality is a mental illness on the same spectrum as transgenderism. Whether someone can be born with mental illness is another question. So cloning might not sort that out.

I'll say this...

In my 15 years of selling life and health insurance, I have NEVER come across gay customer who did not have depression and/or anxiety. The lesbian customers NEARLY always have diabetes to go along with their depression and anxiety as well.

I'm not saying all people with mental illness are gay but I am saying that from my own professional and personal experiences (family members and acquaintances) with gay people, they all have mental illnesses.

It's astonishing how it's become such an accurate prediction that the customer will have depression and/or anxiety when I find out they're gay.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
3056 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 2:07 pm to
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I don’t know, I know one dude from growing up, and we pretty much knew he was a future flamer since kindergarten, and we were right. Maybe some learn it and some are predisposed?

Even if this example was "genetic" it's a very small fraction of the gay community as a whole. Daddy issues, molested young, etc majority are guided in that direction somehow. Adding... definitely not enough to destroy historic norms like marriage

Jason Whitlock has an interesting h take on how San Fran became so gay. Back during the golf rush the city was majority men, so kind of like the jail affect. So if that's the case, the SFs gayness wasn't genetic.
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 2:09 pm
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