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re: Kristi Noem's VP Odds Crash After Dog Killing Revelation

Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:34 am to
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14221 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:34 am to
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No it isn't. Why do you fake arse "country " bros feel such a need to lie about this? I'm sure it sucked that your neighbors dog came onto your 1/2 acre "ranch" and killed both of your chickens, but there's nothing routine about shooting dogs over chickens.


I don’t know about chickens but ranchers have a different take. You have way too much money invested in cattle to have one get injured from a dog messing around with them. A buddy of mine has a farm dog and he explained that the ones that survive learn not to go over into his or especially his neighbors fields. It’s an unwritten rule that you don’t tolerate dogs with the livestock.

That was his take anyway. I wouldn’t have killed a dog over a chicken but if you grow up with ranching I imagine you have a different perspective.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98888 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:51 am to
Her editor clearly wished to scuttle her chances.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:12 am to
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I imagine you have a different perspective.


I don't have to imagine. I grew up on a dairy farm. We also raised beef cattle.

I don't know anyone who ever shot their bird dog because they were stupid enough to let it get after some chickens.

She's a moron.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3258 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:18 am to
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Is she getting cancelled by the same people that advocate and enjoy killing babies?
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
4893 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 am to
The same people that would gladly abort a baby are apoplectic about a vicious dog being put down.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4168 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 am to
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Absolutely. Canines evolved with and bond with humans unlike any other animals. Our evolution together is inseparable.


Facts
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
2422 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:21 am to
Noem would be Pence in a dress.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1206 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:26 am to
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I said basically the same thing. Its a dog, its their property they can dispose of it as they see fit - within reason. A quick, clean death from a gun shot is fine in my book.





exactly. And no one, farmer or not, enjoys being burdened with the task of putting a dog (or any other animal) down. They do it because it because they aren't an irrational basket of emotions and can understand the reasons.


The people that think dogs are some amazing special animal that should treated as some holy thing are delusional.

I like my catahoula because she kills rodents around my place. She loves nothing more than snatching a rat or chipmunk and shaking to death. Then hopefully its not quite dead so she can pick it up again and shake the remaining shred of life out of it.

Dogs are animals. They do animal things. Look at the lifecycle of a wolf or coyote pack. They are not only ruthless to other animals, but to members within their own pack. They are only nice to each other if it gains them something.

My sister had two of her "furbabies" kill a mid-sized stray dog that happened to wander into their yard a few weeks ago. Killed it "for fun". Talk about a reality check.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:20 am to
A real rancher would be offended by Noem calling herself that. And the dog wasn't a hunting dog. It was a house pet that was a hunting breed. She didn't train it. She brought it with her on a hunting trip thinking it would learn from the older dogs. The fact that she wrote that last part 20 years later shows that she still hasn't figured out that she was the problem.

She was humiliated on that hunting trip. I can imagine the other hunters switching from mocking her dog and scolding her for bringing an untrained dog on a hunt.

Finally, in the same killing spree, she killed a goat because it was smelly and would knock her kids over when they tried to play with it. What self respecting rancher would let their kids play with that goat and get mad at the goat?
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13480 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:03 pm to
Aggressive dogs need to be put down. Why not DIY and save the vet bill?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Aggressive dogs need to be put down. Why not DIY and save the vet bill?
It wasn't aggressive. Never bit anyone. Just killed some chickens like 90% of dogs would.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131420 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:21 pm to
Yea. One of those things is far, far worse.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
1065 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:42 pm to
She can always be animal control officer in Virginia

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title3.2/chapter65/section3.2-6552/

quote:

3.2-6552. Dogs killing, injuring, or chasing livestock or poultry.
A. It shall be the duty of any animal control officer or other officer who may find a dog in the act of killing or injuring livestock or poultry to seize or kill such dog forthwith whether such dog bears a tag or not. Any person finding a dog committing any of the depredations mentioned in this section shall have the right to kill such dog on sight as shall any owner of livestock or his agent finding a dog chasing livestock on land utilized by the livestock when the circumstances show that such chasing is harmful to the livestock. Any court shall have the power to order the animal control officer or other officer to kill any dog known to be a confirmed livestock or poultry killer, and any dog killing poultry for the third time shall be considered a confirmed poultry killer. The court, through its contempt powers, may compel the owner, custodian, or harborer of the dog to produce the dog.
Posted by JayDub
Member since May 2023
135 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:15 pm to
Killing a bird dog puppy for killing chickens is abhorrent imo. This wasn't a pit bull, rottweiler, or mastiff that went bat shite crazy. A fricking bird dog puppy attacks birds, WTF does one expect? This happens occasionally, some puppies are overzealous in their hunting instinct.
She isn't destitute, she could've retired the puppy and/or rehomed him. Maybe she was having a bad day, maybe (i.e. probably) PMS played a role but Governor is about as high of a political post as she is qualified for, the Peter Principle applies to elected office too.
Then there's the billy goat shooting with the poorly placed shot AND the lack of planning to have more than enough ammo in hand shows very very poor planning, especially for a hunter. She is as qualified to be on deck for POTUS as the Vice-Cackler we have now, maybe a smidge better but these two acts disqualify her as fa as I'm concerned.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48445 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:20 pm to
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It wasn't aggressive. Never bit anyone


Didn’t she say it bit her?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49456 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:21 pm to
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It wasn't aggressive. Never bit anyone. Just killed some chickens like 90% of dogs would.


More lies.

It tried to bite Noem.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5593 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:32 pm to
It’s so crazy watching y’all back into your tribal corners over this dog killing story.
Do rural people kill dogs for killing chickens or stealing eggs? Absolutely, happens all the time.

Is it a shitty thing to do? Yea, it kind of is.
Both things can be true.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12962 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:22 pm to
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What a fricking idiot. I expect no less.


Now that it has been explained to you that this is fairly common on ranches and farms, do you feel kinda silly about your emotional outburst?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71925 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Now that it has been explained to you that this is fairly common on ranches and farms


Still no.

Y'all can keep making this bullshite claim, but it's wrong.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:26 pm to
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Didn’t she say it bit her?
No.
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