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No Blackouts in Texas? Thank Solar.

Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2088 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:27 pm
Per The Guardian.
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As a deadly, record-breaking heatwave puts Texas’s grid to the test, renewable power sources are helping the state maintain energy reliability, contrary to some of the state’s lawmakers claims that clean energy is less reliable.

An atypically large number of the state’s ageing, run-down coal and gas-fired power plants have failed amid the spikes.

But even amid three-digit temperatures, the state has still managed to avoid rolling blackouts this month. A key reason, energy analysts say, is the state’s supply of solar power, which has doubled since early 2022.


Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3405 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:32 pm to
That may be true. And I know very few people opposed to the concept of “green” or “renewable” energy. Or whatever you want to call it. The more diverse sources of electricity feeding the grid, the less like the grid is to fail. The issue is government interference with the natural adoption of these technologies by subsidizing them. If they are better, the market will adopt them.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68184 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:35 pm to

Not bad for summer in Texas.

It didn't help any at night in those severe winter storms.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19691 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:39 pm to
They don't do so good in hail storms and hurricanes.

Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5037 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:42 pm to
I doubt 5% of Texas' total energy generation portfolio is responsible for fending off brownouts.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8187 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:47 pm to
Literally nobody has ever said there should be no solar
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Thank Solar

Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18731 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:50 pm to
I will give solar some of the credit for this as soon as te proponents of solar accept blame for the black outs a couple winters ago...
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
13291 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:52 pm to
Not many things do well in hurricanes.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6956 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Wiseguy

Wise words
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12698 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:55 pm to
Libs when Texas power grid is strained:

“Green energy hating Republicans!! Abbot!!”

Libs when Texas power grid is holding up:

“Yay Solar!!!!”


Libs when California’s power grid struggles:

*crickets*
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1634 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

They don't do so good in hail storms and hurricanes.


Not a whole hell of a lot does. What's your point?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21966 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:58 pm to
Then why do the have rolling blackouts in California?

They have way more green energy in California so why the blackouts?
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4782 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

That may be true. And I know very few people opposed to the concept of “green” or “renewable” energy. Or whatever you want to call it. The more diverse sources of electricity feeding the grid, the less like the grid is to fail. The issue is government interference with the natural adoption of these technologies by subsidizing them. If they are better, the market will adopt them.

Overall, I agree with your sentiment... but being diverse [especially with solar and wind] makes for less reliable power. It can't be stored and is too variable.
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1634 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

That may be true. And I know very few people opposed to the concept of “green” or “renewable” energy. Or whatever you want to call it. The more diverse sources of electricity feeding the grid, the less like the grid is to fail. The issue is government interference with the natural adoption of these technologies by subsidizing them. If they are better, the market will adopt them.


I can get behind letting the market do its thing a little more freely.
You good with getting rid of ethanol subsidies as well? I could see that getting some bipartisan support.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15780 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

The more diverse sources of electricity feeding the grid, the less like the grid is to fail. The issue is government interference with the natural adoption of these technologies by subsidizing them.


Bingo.

The cleanest, most efficient is still nuclear, but even they'll tell you that solar and wind make sense when and where they make sense.

What a lot of solar advocates don't discuss is that cells are toxic once they're no longer usable and it's difficult to recycle components from them: Wired
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19691 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Not many things do well in hurricanes.


Powerlines from any source don't do well in hurricanes, but coal, oil and gas power plants have a solid track record.

Solar doesn't do well in hail storms either. Texas has some epic hail storms. (Very hard on cars too).

Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3382 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:17 pm to
Here's the Ercot link for current fuel mix in Texas.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards/fuelmix

Wind is more than solar.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51809 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:25 pm to
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I doubt 5% of Texas' total energy generation portfolio is responsible for fending off brownouts.


This. And 5% may be a little generous. Meanwhile, natural gas is still responsible for almost half.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:42 pm to
I have spent a ton of time in Texas. I have never heard of rolling brownouts or blackouts during heatwaves. Has that really been a problem for Texas?
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