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No one wants to talk about Ukraine anymore
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:08 pm
The Western Elites turned this into the moral cause of the early 21st Century and sucked "Progressives" and U.S. LIVs into supporting the effort.
With $$$ Billions spent, 100s of thousands of lives wasted, our so-called Elites are now turning away from a lost cause.
Russia’s superpower is the ruthlessness of its leadership; the Russians seem willing to use their citizens as cannon fodder, expending men the way the US expends bullets. Red Army; who knew?
This is an Opinion piece from a former supporter of the war who become disillusioned, and believes it's time to end it.
Spectator
A whole lotta truth here.
With $$$ Billions spent, 100s of thousands of lives wasted, our so-called Elites are now turning away from a lost cause.
Russia’s superpower is the ruthlessness of its leadership; the Russians seem willing to use their citizens as cannon fodder, expending men the way the US expends bullets. Red Army; who knew?
This is an Opinion piece from a former supporter of the war who become disillusioned, and believes it's time to end it.
Spectator
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...the average age of the Ukrainian army is now forty-three, a statistic that makes me even sicker. They’re running out of young men, not because the young men won’t serve but because they’re dead. Ukrainian women are being sent to the front lines. Russia had nearly four times the population of Ukraine before the war; given the reduced population in Kyiv-controlled areas, the countries are now mismatched in manpower by a factor of five.
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With his legacy and political future on the line, Putin is clearly all-in for the long haul. The easily manipulated Russian public have not rebelled. Putin’s inner sanctum hasn’t staged a coup. Russian GDP has increased since last year. The rouble started rising against the dollar. Western sanctions have failed.
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No matter how much ordnance the US and NATO ship to Zelensky, we’re not providing the soldiers obliged to wield it. I say this with a heavy heart: if the writing is on the wall — if a negotiated settlement that cedes captured territory to Putin looks inevitable — maybe it’s time to urge the Zelensky government to enter talks to bring this depressing war to its depressing conclusion.
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Dragging out an entrenched stalemate merely racks up a higher body count and destroys more Ukrainian homes and infrastructure to no purpose. Sitting back and giving Ukrainians just enough weaponry to keep fighting to the last man and woman, only for the country to finally end up where we always knew it would, is not just immoral. It’s murder.
A whole lotta truth here.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 4:13 pm
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Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:10 pm to Perfect Circle
Grifts only continue for so long. Now let’s open the playbook and see who exactly was benefiting from this ruse
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:11 pm to Perfect Circle
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No one wants to talk about Ukraine any more
any more what?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:11 pm to Perfect Circle
What a I find the weirdest about this war is I have seen zero legit footage of any battles or fighting
Just pics
Most of the footage is video games
Just pics
Most of the footage is video games
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:13 pm to Perfect Circle
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...the average age of the Ukrainian army is now forty-three, a statistic that makes me even sicker. They’re running out of young men, not because the young men won’t serve but because they’re dead.
**Downloads Bumble and moves location to Kiev**
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:14 pm to Perfect Circle
Never forget the true heroes of this terrible war
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:15 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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any more what?
Fixed; thanks.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:16 pm to SDVTiger
Republicans finally did something right in delaying our money going to that waste of life meat grinder.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:16 pm to Perfect Circle
frick Ukraine and Zelensyyyyy
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:16 pm to SDVTiger
I've heard there are Telegram channels with a lot of footage -- but again, it's difficult to know how much is propaganda BS. This is one of those things Greenwald has warned about, the O-T Ukraine thread hasn't learned, and I feel like the Israel warriors should be wary of -- a lot of these supposed open source intel sites are nothing more than intelligence agency outposts. To your point, it is strange that corporate media has only shown damage after missile attacks, but really not much else.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:19 pm to Perfect Circle
Our leaders never explained why we needed to support this. Not in the way they should have explained it. I do think there will be repercussions in Eastern Europe if Russia finally defeats in totality, the Ukrainians. Our current leadership just hasn't laid out the case. Not did they supply all possible armaments needed for Ukraine. And finally the Republican party has turned against it so it may be a fait accompli for the Russians.
The rest of the countries over there are largely members of NATO so we will revisit this shite in the future.
Except Moldova. Moldova is next to go.
The rest of the countries over there are largely members of NATO so we will revisit this shite in the future.
Except Moldova. Moldova is next to go.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:22 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
They always trot out the same argument -- you're a Neville Chamberlain appeaser if you don't stop Putin, and he will take Paris if we don't support Ukraine now.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:24 pm to Bunk Moreland
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and I feel like the Israel warriors should be wary of
I agree but we are at least seeing guys shooting guns, bombs blowing up buildings etc and thr msm is showing it
I havent seen anything for Slava Ukirane but random videos from twitter guys named Igor Slotkin
The cuck of kiev, snake island, sniper models, russia has no ammo, no food, no water, no money, putin has cancer, klitshco bros on the front line, a poster named Weewee giving us intel from tinder girls, some other poster saying they have Czech contacts from 1976 deep in Moscow saying Vlads getting overthrown I having given up
Catchin a 1yr ban for laughing at them was funny
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:33 pm to Bunk Moreland
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They always trot out the same argument -- you're a Neville Chamberlain appeaser if you don't stop Putin, and he will take Paris if we don't support Ukraine now.
I get it. I think that Russia is a threat to peace and security in the world. Especially as they are now allying with China, Iran and the little turd from North Korea. But our politicians are too frightened to layout the situation for us fearing it could affect their chances for re-election. I know Biden has a reason for wanting to carry on. But he will never tell us. It is probably why he supplied just enough equipment to Ukraine. Unfortunately it is now a political calculation in the US where democrats want one thing and republicans another. And then there is the 800 pound gorilla Trump who wants it over. Whatever.
Bonus question: Should we just let Iran develop a nuke?
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:34 pm to SDVTiger
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I havent seen anything for Slava Ukirane but random videos from twitter guys named Igor Slotkin
The cuck of kiev, snake island, sniper models, russia has no ammo, no food, no water, no money, putin has cancer, klitshco bros on the front line, a poster named Weewee giving us intel from tinder girls, some other poster saying they have Czech contacts from 1976 deep in Moscow saying Vlads getting overthrown I having given up
The last two years have been a great lesson in the power of propaganda. I was pretty good about staying out of that thread, except when I was hammered. The funny thing is MSM is now bailing on the project and finally reporting the truth, so you can go in there with NYT and WaPo articles about how dire the situation is for Volodymyr Churchill.Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:40 pm to Perfect Circle
They're going to liquidate all those Russian assets and make sure the laundering continues. I'd love to know where all the money is actually going.
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:45 pm to Perfect Circle
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They’re running out of young men
They ran... Those young guys knew they were being sent to the front to die and they took off...
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:48 pm to Perfect Circle
quote:No one enjoys talking about their F/ups.
No one wants to talk about Ukraine anymore
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:51 pm to Perfect Circle
There is a new grift in town…
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:52 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The last two years have been a great lesson in the power of propaganda. I was pretty good about staying out of that thread, except when I was hammered. The funny thing is MSM is now bailing on the project and finally reporting the truth, so you can go in there with NYT and WaPo articles about how dire the situation is for Volodymyr Churchill.
I am seeing the shift. But there are diehards in that thread. Still calling you an agent of Russia if you post those articles. Its crazy
I still think Russia just wants the areas that have all the resources and are just sitting there. They land mind all the space in front. Then just shoot missles. They accomplished the goal
But that opinion is still direct from Stalingrad according to many in there
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