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Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:00 pm to BCreed1
Dems shoring up that brand with another borderline personality disorder girl-child screaming at strangers in public
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:37 pm to Squirrelmeister
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I think it is you who are misrepresenting intentionally or unintentionally. It is absolutely saying, and meaning, that Jesus literally is Kyrios (the Lord, the tetrgrammaton, YHWH). These Jews quote from the Septuagint nonstop and Kyrios in the Septuagint is a Greek translation of the 4-letter divine name of Yahweh (though yes in a colloquial sense in Greek… kyrios in other Greek writings translates as “lord” in lower case.
Here is one example - Jude disagrees with your dogma, and does agree with me.
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5Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.
Early Christians used Kyrios to signify Jesus’ divine authority (Philippians 2:9-11), not to conflate him with Yahweh’s Old Testament actions. Jude’s focus is salvation and judgment, not equating Jesus with Yahweh’s specific acts in Egypt. Context matters: Jude 1:5 emphasizes divine judgment, not Jesus’ identity as the Yahweh
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Early Christians believed Jesus, before he became incarnate to earn his name “Jesus” was the same great angel and son of El Elyon who led the Israelite slaves out of Egypt and killed the unbelievers.
Nah, the idea that early Christians all saw Jesus as some "great angel" or El Elyon’s son who led Israel out of Egypt and killed unbelievers doesn’t hold up. Some, like Justin Martyr, floated the angel thing for Old Testament appearances, but it wasn’t a standard belief. Hebrews 1:1-4 straight-up says Jesus is above angels, not one of them. Paul in Colossians 1:15-17 calls Jesus divine and creator, not a created angel. Plus, Jesus killing folks in Exodus? That’s way off from his vibe in John 3:17. No dice.
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So is morality objective or not? I’m glad you are admitting Yahweh gave violent commands to kill babies and enslave virgin girls.
Morality’s objective, tied to God’s nature, but you’re twisting Yahweh’s commands. Those Old Testament orders (like Numbers 31) were one-off judgments on idol-worshipping nations, not a moral blueprint. Virgin girls? Deuteronomy 21:10-14 says marry them with rights, not enslave them. That’s not God’s vibe; context matters. Jesus (Matthew 5:44) and Paul (1 Corinthians 13) push love and mercy, showing God’s real deal. Painting it as baby-killing and slavery is a stretch and misses the Bible’s bigger picture.
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Revelation 14:15
Numbers 31:18
Whether you believe Jesus is Yahweh or Jesus and Yahweh are consubstantial “one God” - that fictional character has commanded, advocated for, and set the example of a violent murderer who condoned rape and slavery, and even the Jesus and the Paul of the New Testament advocated for slaves to obey their masters when they could have simply said “it is immoral for a man to own another”. But no, Paul even wants to keep Onesimus for himself but needs Philemon’s permission because Onesimus is a slave.
Your evidence doesn’t hold up. Revelation 14:15? Symbolic judgment, not Jesus swinging a sword. Numbers 31:18? Old Testament, not Jesus’ call ancient warfare context, not rape or slavery. Deuteronomy 21:10-14 says virgins got marriage and rights, not chains. Jesus being one with Yahweh doesn’t mean he greenlights every Old Testament act, check Matthew 5:44, love your enemies.
Slavery? Paul’s navigating Roman reality, pushing kindness, not ownership. Philemon 1:16 hints at freeing Onesimus, and Galatians 3:28 says all are equal in Christ. Jesus? Silent on slavery, all about spiritual freedom (John 8:36). Saying Jesus or Paul backed murder, rape, or slavery twists their message and context. Love and redemption’s their deal.
Revelation 14:15
Revelation 14:15 depicts an angel calling for a harvest, symbolizing divine judgment, not literal violence by Jesus. The “sickle” imagery represents God’s final separation of the righteous from the wicked at the end of time, as seen in the broader context. It’s about spiritual reckoning, not Jesus advocating murder or war.
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I know Christianity very well,
You and I have different understandings of what "very well" mean. You are throwing the same boring argument out every athiest does.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:39 pm to BCreed1
Really stupid. Show some class people.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:42 pm to BCreed1
How was this crazy bitc& not arrested?
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:47 pm to BCreed1
Businesses should start posting "Conduct Policy" signs at the door and in restrooms. Obviously this is now needed since we have a population in society today that does not know proper public etiquette, and how to mind their own business.
The posted notice would serve notice to all who enter the business that if they cannot conduct themselves in a peaceful and respectful manner, that they are not welcome and trespassing on this private property will be prosecuted and subject to civil lawsuits.
The posted notice would serve notice to all who enter the business that if they cannot conduct themselves in a peaceful and respectful manner, that they are not welcome and trespassing on this private property will be prosecuted and subject to civil lawsuits.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 12:51 pm to idlewatcher
With malice.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:09 pm to Squirrelmeister
Squirrelmeister
Can't hold my breath for much longer. Show me where Jesus advocated for murder and war.
Can't hold my breath for much longer. Show me where Jesus advocated for murder and war.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:12 pm to BCreed1
FAFO
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:21 pm to FooManChoo
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She needs to turn from her sins and seek forgiveness from God through faith in Jesus Christ.
She doesn't strike me as having the humility to admit she's wrong.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 1:44 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Maybe you are stupid or something or have me confused with someone else. I am not a part of any religion, and I am a constitutional conservative.
Uhh...that would be the Constitution that defines and codifies "inalienable, Goe-given Rights...". Come on Squirrel, that will be a hard nut to crack for somebody who don't believe that there is God (Self Aware Energy Reservoir).
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:34 pm to Mushroom1968
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Early Christians used Kyrios to signify Jesus’ divine authority (Philippians 2:9-11)
I agree with that, and it pairs very well with Psalm 82 where Yahweh prophetically is resurrected and becomes king of the other Elohim, the sons of El, called angels of ton Theon (God the father / El Elyon the most high). Funny you would quote from these verses in Philippians because it is the precise verses that show Paul believed Jesus earned the name “Jesus” only after he was sacrificed and resurrected (not after being born on earth from a virgin).
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Jude’s focus is salvation and judgment,
Maybe so
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not equating Jesus with Yahweh’s specific acts in Egypt
You fail. “Jude” literally wrote that it was Jesus who freed the Israelites from bondage in Egypt. Many Bible translations in English try to hide this by using “the Lord” in verse 5 but the Greek says “Iesous”.
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Context matters: Jude 1:5 emphasizes divine judgment, not Jesus’ identity as the Yahweh
Well you are ignoring what Jude wrote in favor of what Mushroom1968 wants to believe.
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Those Old Testament orders (like Numbers 31) were one-off judgments on idol-worshipping nations, not a moral blueprint
You are confused. Let me explain. Those Canaanites didn’t worship idols - statues made of wood, stone, or metal. They worshipped the gods (that the Bible acknowledges are real) that inhabited the idols while being summoned and worshipped. The Israelites used idols in the Bible and historically as we have found through archaeology. They had a giant bronze serpent which channeled the serpent god of healing named Nehushtan in the temple in Jerusalem. They had wooden idols of Asherah the Queen of Heaven and god of Wisdom in the temple. Figurines of Yahweh and Asherah were found all over Israel. They worshipped El Elyon using golden bulls in the city named Beth-El (temple of El) for which Israel gets its namesake. There was the idol called the ark of the covenant which Yahweh was said to inhabit, or perhaps he rode atop the golden chariot throne on the top of the ark. Most Christians today still use idols in their worship - ever been to a Catholic Church?
If every idol worshipping people deserves to be destroyed and their virgins raped, then so did Israel. You can’t say that morality was objective.
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Hebrews 1:1-4 straight-up says Jesus is above angels, not one of them. Paul in Colossians 1:15-17 calls Jesus divine and creator, not a created angel.
All pre-gospel New Testament writings (7 legit letters of Paul, Jude, 1 Peter, Hebrews, James, Revelation, Collosians, Ephesians) and 1 Clement refer to Jesus as the firstborn of creation, through him all things were made, he was an angel but was highly exalted above the other angels after he was killed in heaven and resurrected and became God’s high priest Melchizedek forever. They believed he would come to earth to judge the living and the dead and with his voice (of an archangel) and the trumpet of God he would raise the dead and give them new spiritual bodies and transform the living believers and he would created a new heaven and new earth.
Even in the gospels and post-gospel writings, he is never called the son of the Lord. It is always “Jesus is Kyrios” and Jesus is “the son of the Theon”. The reason you won’t find one mention of Jesus being “son of the Lord” is because Jesus is Yahweh, son of El Elyon.
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8When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. 9But the LORD’s portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.
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Your evidence doesn’t hold up. Revelation 14:15? Symbolic judgment, not Jesus swinging a sword.
Anything you guys don’t like you claim it is symbolic or metaphorical.
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Deuteronomy 21:10-14 says virgins got marriage and rights, not chains.
So nonconsensual penetration after a couple days since her father and whole family was murdered is marriage.
Let’s face it, even legitimate married to Israelite women - the women were the property of the men. Essentially slaves.
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Slavery? Paul’s navigating Roman reality, pushing kindness, not ownership. Philemon 1:16 hints at freeing Onesimus
Whatever bro. Philemon owned Paul his immortal soul. Paul manipulated Philemon to giving Onesimus to Paul as a slave.
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Jesus? Silent on slavery, all about spiritual freedom
Try Luke 17:7-10. Also try reading Ephesians 6:5, keeping in mind Paul claimed to get his gospel message directly from Jesus. And if Jesus is Yahweh or if you believe Jesus is one with God or consubstantial with God the father, just open up the Old Testament and your answer on whether God condones and promotes slavery will be answered.
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You and I have different understandings of what "very well" mean.
I don’t believe it is divinely inspired, so I can understand what each author is writing about in context. You are crippled in your understanding because you believe it all must agree with each other. I have studied the Bible and ancient history for years and have many thick scholarly works under my belt. So we will have different views for sure.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 2:46 pm to RCDfan1950
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Uhh...that would be the Constitution that defines and codifies "inalienable, Goe-given Rights...". Come on Squirrel,
Let me make it easy for you. You used quotes as if you are quoting the constitution.
Here it is:
US Constitution PDF
Find me where it says “god” anywhere in there.
I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:31 pm to Squirrelmeister
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You are confused. Let me explain. Those Canaanites didn’t worship idols - statues made of wood, stone, or metal. They worshipped the gods (that the Bible acknowledges are real) that inhabited the idols while being summoned and worshipped. The Israelites used idols in the Bible and historically as we have found through archaeology. They had a giant bronze serpent which channeled the serpent god of healing named Nehushtan in the temple in Jerusalem. They had wooden idols of Asherah the Queen of Heaven and god of Wisdom in the temple. Figurines of Yahweh and Asherah were found all over Israel. They worshipped El Elyon using golden bulls in the city named Beth-El (temple of El) for which Israel gets its namesake. There was the idol called the ark of the covenant which Yahweh was said to inhabit, or perhaps he rode atop the golden chariot throne on the top of the ark. Most Christians today still use idols in their worship - ever been to a Catholic Church?
If every idol worshipping people deserves to be destroyed and their virgins raped, then so did Israel. You can’t say that morality was objective.
Your take on Canaanite and Israelite worship misses the mark. Canaanites didn’t just use statues; they worshipped deities like Baal and Asherah with practices (child sacrifice, ritual prostitution) condemned in the Bible (Deuteronomy 12:31). The Bible doesn’t “acknowledge” these gods as real; it mocks them as powerless (Psalm 115:4-8). Israelites using idols like Nehushtan (2 Kings 18:4) or Asherah poles was disobedience, not divine approval. God repeatedly calls for their removal (Judges 6:25). Archaeological finds of figurines show syncretism, not sanctioned worship. The Ark wasn’t an idol; it symbolized God’s presence, not a deity “inhabiting” it (Exodus 25:22). Catholic icons? Venerated, not worshipped, big difference (Catechism).
Canaanite judgments were specific, not a blanket rule against all idol use (Deuteronomy??). Virgins weren’t raped; Deuteronomy 21:10-14 mandates marriage with rights. Israel faced punishment for idolatry too (2 Kings 17:7-18), so no double standard. Objective morality holds, God’s standard (justice, mercy) applies consistently, context matters. Your argument conflates cultural practices with divine commands and ignores biblical distinctions.
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All pre-gospel New Testament writings (7 legit letters of Paul, Jude, 1 Peter, Hebrews, James, Revelation, Collosians, Ephesians) and 1 Clement refer to Jesus as the firstborn of creation, through him all things were made, he was an angel but was highly exalted above the other angels after he was killed in heaven and resurrected and became God’s high priest Melchizedek forever. They believed he would come to earth to judge the living and the dead and with his voice (of an archangel) and the trumpet of God he would raise the dead and give them new spiritual bodies and transform the living believers and he would created a new heaven and new earth.
Even in the gospels and post-gospel writings, he is never called the son of the Lord. It is always “Jesus is Kyrios” and Jesus is “the son of the Theon”. The reason you won’t find one mention of Jesus being “son of the Lord” is because Jesus is Yahweh, son of El Elyon.
The “firstborn of creation” (Colossians 1:15) means preeminence, not a created being, same verse says all things were made through him, making him divine, not an angel. Hebrews 1:4-6 explicitly says Jesus is superior to angels, not one of them. No New Testament text calls Jesus an angel outright, 1 Clement doesn’t either; it echoes Hebrews’ view of Jesus’ divinity.
Your reading leans on fringe interpretations, ignoring mainstream New Testament theology. Texts like John 10:30 (“I and the Father are one”) and Colossians 2:9 (“in him the whole fullness of deity dwells”) show Jesus as fully divine, not an exalted angel or Yahweh under El Elyon
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Anything you guys don’t like you claim it is symbolic or metaphorical.
There's nothing about that I didn't like.
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Whatever bro. Philemon owned Paul his immortal soul. Paul manipulated Philemon to giving Onesimus to Paul as a slave.
Philemon didn’t “own” Paul’s soul, Paul was a free apostle, not indebted like that. In Philemon, Paul doesn’t manipulate to “take” Onesimus as a slave. He urges Philemon to treat Onesimus, a runaway slave, as a “brother” hinting at freedom, not ownership. Paul offers to cover any debt and appeals to Philemon’s goodwill, not trickery. The letter’s vibe is reconciliation and equality in Christ (Galatians 3:28), not Paul scheming to nab a slave. Context matters, Paul’s working within Roman slavery to push a higher ethic, not perpetuate it.
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Try Luke 17:7-10
Jesus uses a servant-master analogy to teach about duty, not to endorse slavery. It’s a cultural illustration, servants were common in Roman society. He’s saying disciples should serve God humbly, not commenting on slavery’s morality. Context is key; parables aren’t policy.
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Ephesians 6:5
Paul tells slaves to obey masters, but this isn’t Jesus’ direct words, Paul’s applying his gospel to Roman realities. He also tells masters to treat slaves justly. He pushes mutual respect, not slavery’s approval.
Show me where Jesus advocated for war and murder.
This post was edited on 4/18/25 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:38 pm to Mushroom1968
quote:Quite right. His understanding of Christianity seems to be based non-Christian sources that he attempts to shoehorn into the Bible. He completely shreds or ignores the internal context of the Scriptures by falling back on interpreting each book as its own independent writing that he thinks should be read within some gnostic or ANE pagan understanding rather than within the framework of the other biblical writings. It's why he can cherry-pick a verse here or there and impose upon it some meaning that is absent or even contradicted in its immediate context or within the context of the larger Bible.quote:
I know Christianity very well,
You and I have different understandings of what "very well" mean.
This methodology allows him to say anything he wants about the Bible, because he will either deny the context is meaningful to the interpretation of the text, or he will outright deny other conflicting parts of the Bible as being unoriginal or corrupted in some form, or just that the original author's understanding is different from our own (but somehow supports his views).
He doesn't understand Biblical Christianity, but his own bastardized view of it based on a false understanding of the Bible, itself. He uses the Bible when it fits his needs while denying it when it doesn't. He rejects Christian history while embracing ANE history and prefers accounts outside the Bible to the ones within the Bible to interpret the Bible. Even after being shown time and time again that his interpretations do not align with the rest of the Bible (and even a passage's own context at times), he just moves on to the next false claim until he can circle back to his first one again. Never correcting his understanding or application, but just repeating the same arguments again and again while claiming Christians for 2,000 years don't know their own Bibles.
It's quite sad how lost he is.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 3:54 pm to BCreed1
Been funny if the old dude had carried a tazer and shoved it up her filthy cünt stained crotch.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 4:14 pm to Morpheus
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Some unhinged person starts yelling at my wife like that it would take a miracle for me not to knock a bitch out
I have the opposite problem. I'd have to get between her and my wife to save her life. My wife would bolt at her like a rabid pit bull. Bitch will be in pieces if I don't move quickly.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 5:41 pm to BCreed1
Lol I would have choked that bitch out. Where the frick are all the men when these toddlers show their asses in public? No fricking way I'd set back and allow some leftist count to harass an elderly couple.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 6:56 pm to Mushroom1968
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Your take on Canaanite and Israelite worship misses the mark. Canaanites didn’t just use statues; they worshipped deities like Baal and Asherah with practices (child sacrifice, ritual prostitution) condemned in the Bible (Deuteronomy 12:31)
Those are all things the Bible records the Israelites and Judahites doing too, including the wisest man who ever lived and who ever will lived (good ole King Solomon, who’s namesake is the Canaanite sunset god Shalim).
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The Bible doesn’t “acknowledge” these gods as real; it mocks them as powerless (Psalm 115:4-8)
False. Yahweh is said to judge these other gods (psalm 82, exodus, Jeremiah) and constantly states how much better and more powerful Yahweh is than the other gods (psalm 89) and how there is no god beside him (Isaiah). Those are boasts of incomparability, not denials of existence. Compare to Zephaniah 2:15… if you think Yahweh saying there is no god beside him and there are none other… was Nineveh the only city?
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The Ark wasn’t an idol; it symbolized God’s presence, not a deity “inhabiting” it (Exodus 25:22)
It wasn’t a physical representation of Yahweh’s form, but it was used just like the other physical representation of other gods (idols). It didn’t merely symbolize Yahweh’s presence. Yahweh was physically present. Sometimes it was in the tabernacle or the temple, but they also carried the ark into battle with the Canaanites and Philistines and Yahweh was said to be present and to be going into the battle with Israel against their enemies. When the Philistines captured the ark, Yahweh was physically present to do mischief such as giving the philistines bubonic plague and cutting off the head of Dagon. Not the “statue of Dagon”, but “Dagon”.
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Catholic icons? Venerated, not worshipped, big difference
Praying to a supposed dead woman who was a historicized version of Asherah / Holy Spirit aka the Queen of Heaven aka the Great Lady of Jerusalem aka the Sun of Righteousness who can receive prayers and take action and have power and authority over others… is worship. I’m a Catholic and I can acknowledge that prayers to Mary is worship. “Veneration” is such a sorry excuse for polytheism.
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Virgins weren’t raped;
You and I have a different definition of rape. Those virgin girls didn’t want to have sex with their captors who killed their families. It was non consensual sex and non consensual marriage. If that is not rape then what is?
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Deuteronomy 21:10-14 mandates marriage with rights. Israel faced punishment for idolatry too (2 Kings 17:7-18), so no double standard
Canaanites and Israelites both worshipped Canaanite gods (Israelites were a sect of Canaanites and spoke the same language and are genetically the same stock). Both sacrificed children. Both used idols. Those were the justifications for killing the (other) Canaanites. There absolutely was a double standard.
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Objective morality holds, God’s standard (justice, mercy) applies consistently
God commands the killing male babies. God invents a magic abortion potion to kill babies of adulterous mothers. Killing babies must be objectively moral then.
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Your argument conflates cultural practices with divine commands and ignores biblical distinctions.
If at some point an action is morally acceptable and at other times (divine command or otherwise) the same action is not acceptable, then it is not objective.
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The “firstborn of creation” (Colossians 1:15) means preeminence, not a created being
Prototokos… study this Greek word meaning
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No New Testament text calls Jesus an angel outright, 1 Clement doesn’t either; it echoes Hebrews’ view of Jesus’ divinity
Yahweh is an angel in pre-Christian Jewish scriptures that didn’t make the Roman canon. Hebrews chapter 1 refers to Jesus as an angel and Paul refers to Jesus’ voice as the voice of an archangel. Most church fathers wrote of Jesus as the first thing God created and how through Jesus the cosmos were created and how Jesus “became” superior to the (other) of gods angels. Angels of God was a translation of the Hebrew “sons of God” as seen in Deut 32:8-9.
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Philemon didn’t “own” Paul’s soul, Paul was a free apostle, not indebted like that. In Philemon, Paul doesn’t manipulate to “take” Onesimus as a slave. He urges Philemon to treat Onesimus, a runaway slave, as a “brother” hinting at freedom, not ownership
Sorry - that was a typo. Philemon owed (not owned) Paul his immortal soul for saving him. Paul tells Philemon Onesimus didn’t really do much for Philemon and he didn’t really need him anymore, but requested permission to take ownership of him. Onesimus became Paul’s slave.
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Jesus uses a servant-master analogy to teach about duty, not to endorse slavery.
Wouldn’t it have been nice if Jesus just said “do not own another human for it is immoral”? The gospels and Paul’s epistles were used to justify slavery even until the war of northern aggression.
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Show me where Jesus advocated for war and murder.
Well “Jesus” is a fictive character in ancient myth. But if you believe he existed as is one with god the father, just open that big book and there’s your answer. It’s all over it.
For more reading, try “Drunk with Blood: God’s Killings in the Bible” by Steve Wells.
Posted on 4/18/25 at 7:00 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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That’s cwill.
You mean the dude with her that followed her out?
Cwill would have the balls to confront someone in owrson
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