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re: UFO whistleblowers storm Capitol Hill with explosive claims about alien life

Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:03 pm to
Alien 1: We need to know if the humans have discovered us and that we are visiting Earth and studying them. Do you have information and evidence that these humans have discovered us?

Alien 2: Yes

Alien 1: Can you tell us all about it and show us the evidence?

Alien 2: OMG, I can't talk about it unfortunately.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:06 pm to
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That said it’s much easier for some people to attack the disclosures due to cognitive dissonance


Questioning extraordinary claims with zero hard evidence is not cognitive dissonance.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9455 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:26 pm to
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Alien 2: OMG, I can't talk about it unfortunately.


The thing is these guys talk a lot about it....talk at paid conferences, publish books, make documentaries. But that is all they do is talk about it without providing the public with hard evidence. As a long time UFO junkie I think I preferred when this subject was in the shadows of late night talk on Art Bell and early internet forums .I frankly trust some random anonymous person talking about a personal experience that isnt trying to sell a book or get notoriety over these guys that have been making the rounds in the media lately.
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 12:27 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/11/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Questioning extraordinary claims with zero hard evidence is not cognitive dissonance.

I mean there’s videos, dozens of experts providing detailed and undisputed testimony and documents outlining this stuff, all of which has been officially released by the federal government related to UAP, etc.

A court trial would be open and shut based on the level of “hard evidence” that’s publicly available that entities that are not human are piloting or sending craft to Earth and have for decades or longer.

Are you disputing UAP are real or the idea that non humans are responsible for them?
This post was edited on 6/11/26 at 12:36 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18874 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:02 pm to
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talk at paid conferences, publish books, make documentaries.


There's always a book.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13751 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:08 pm to
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The thing is these guys talk a lot about it....talk at paid conferences, publish books, make documentaries. But that is all they do is talk about it without providing the public with hard evidence. As a long time UFO junkie I think I preferred when this subject was in the shadows of late night talk on Art Bell and early internet forums .I frankly trust some random anonymous person talking about a personal experience that isnt trying to sell a book or get notoriety over these guys that have been making the rounds in the media lately.


Gotta love how for decades people were talking about these things. Thousands upon thousands of people. And the hold up was always the government. And now that the government is saying it people are saying they trusted the people who were saying it before even more and cannot trust the government.

As I've said many times, many folks just aren't going to believe it no matter what. Times the way they are today even if people see UFOs with their own eyes they'll say they were holograms or something instead of the thing people have been saying were real for literally thousands of years now.

Yes, it is indeed cognitive dissonance.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:10 pm to
I was open to believing aliens existed until the government told me they did
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13751 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:10 pm to
As I was saying.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61066 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Gotta love how for decades people were talking about these things. Thousands upon thousands of people. And the hold up was always the government. And now that the government is saying it people are saying they trusted the people who were saying it before even more and cannot trust the government.

As I've said many times, many folks just aren't going to believe it no matter what. Times the way they are today even if people see UFOs with their own eyes they'll say they were holograms or something instead of the thing people have been saying were real for literally thousands of years now.

Yes, it is indeed cognitive dissonance.


What's the common theme here, chief?

We are governed by liars and thieves. There is zero reason to believe what they say either way.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
13751 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:13 pm to
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What's the common theme here, chief?



It's included in the post you quoted, chief. The common theme is cynicism.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80315 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:16 pm to
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court trial would be open and shut based on the level of “hard evidence” that’s publicly available that entities that are not human are piloting or sending craft to Earth and have for decades or longer.
No it wouldn't. Not even close. You see videos of balloons and think it's alien. You see camera artifact and think it's alien. The goofballs who tesitified before Congress are just that, goofballs. Elizondo promoted a pic of a reflection of a chandelier as a mothership after his testimony in Congress. Youre being duped by carnival barkers and the gullible in Congress. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not blurry films.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23905 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:34 pm to
Do you even understand what a UAP is defined as?

It’s an unidentified aerial phenomenon. It does not by definition require aliens to be part of the equation for “UAP” to be real.

Trump and the federal government has confirmed they exist whether you chose to accept that or not.

The most reasonable debate to be had is now related to who created and is controlling them. If you want to argue it’s humans I’m open to that as part of a secret government program that’s being blamed on non-humans. That’s what’s currently being discussed on capital hill with factions now claiming with some support that actual non humans are involved from multiple species.

But claiming they’re all made up requires you to be able to prove that generations of pilots, government officials and official US government documents are all part of a sophisticated hoax designed to fool the public into believing UAP/UFO are real for reasons that are yet undefined.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80315 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:40 pm to
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It’s an unidentified aerial phenomenon. It does not by definition require aliens to be part of the equation for “UAP” to be real
But you specifically mentioned aliens.

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with factions now claiming with some support that actual non humans are involved from multiple species
Who is that?

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But claiming they’re all made up requires you to be able to prove that generations of pilots, government officials and official US government documents are all part of a sophisticated hoax designed to fool the public into believing UAP/UFO are real for reasons that are yet undefined.
No it doesnt. They are making the claims. I question the claims. I didnt say they were all made up nor did I say they were all part of a hoax to trick people. They are more than likely simply confused by what they saw, except for people like elizondo who make money off of this.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66130 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 1:41 pm to
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creatures that do not have traditional bodies


Even if true, how did these sky-screamers determine our bodies are the "traditional" ones?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6553 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:06 pm to
Multiple congressional members are saying this as well. Weird shite to lie about for no reason.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6553 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:10 pm to
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There are no aliens here and never were. Sick of hearing about it.


Man it must be so nice being so close minded and dumb. Never have to think about anything. Everything in your small world is already settled. Simple life.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6553 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:13 pm to
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It’s an unidentified aerial phenomenon. It does not by definition require aliens to be part of the equation for “UAP” to be real.


Lemme know when a man made craft can fly in and out of the water effortlessly.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3917 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:14 pm to
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Multiple congressional members are saying this as well


3 out of 535
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18874 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Multiple congressional members are saying this as well


Members of Congress would never lie.

Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1806 posts
Posted on 6/11/26 at 2:23 pm to
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A court trial would be open and shut based on the level of “hard evidence” that’s publicly available that entities that are not human are piloting or sending craft to Earth and have for decades or longer.


Bananas. There is not one shred of physical evidence that points to this. There are testimonies (almost always 2nd hand) and grainy, inconclusive videos that are most likely showing mundane objects that are present at the edge of whatever sensors detectability.

If you’re claiming that there are multiple alien species that our govt knows about, why isn’t there a single clear picture of a craft or alien? Or a body? Or anything physical?

It’s the same shite for decades. It’s time to put up or shut up.
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