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When "Normal" is no longer normal...
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:47 am
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:47 am
Someone that I know is struggling with mental health. He has an engineering degree and should be on top of the world. But he struggles - he can't keep a job, stay in a relationship, and deals with anger issues.
He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong - arbitrary standards put on us by a controlling society. Going to school, getting a job, meeting a woman and getting married, buying a home, etc, are all standards that sheep follow.
It seems to me that he has accepted his mental illness and views the rest of us as being ill.
I bring this up, because it occured to me that this is happening to our society in general. Societal and cultural norms are being rejected. All of the things that I listed above are no longer necessary or even desirable in the minds of many, and we are being asked to compensate, this is causing conflict and chaos.
Am I wrong?
He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong - arbitrary standards put on us by a controlling society. Going to school, getting a job, meeting a woman and getting married, buying a home, etc, are all standards that sheep follow.
It seems to me that he has accepted his mental illness and views the rest of us as being ill.
I bring this up, because it occured to me that this is happening to our society in general. Societal and cultural norms are being rejected. All of the things that I listed above are no longer necessary or even desirable in the minds of many, and we are being asked to compensate, this is causing conflict and chaos.
Am I wrong?
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Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:50 am to Jax-Tiger
Community has been destroyed by pushing everything virtual and online. There’s also an economic factor to it, gone are the local manufacturing facilities and stores, in favor of offshoring and conglomeration. Interpersonal connection is vital to a human’s wellbeing and it used to be inherent in everyday life. That’s no longer the case.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:52 am to Jax-Tiger
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He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong
Probably on the spectrum.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:53 am to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:53 am to Jax-Tiger
Tell him he needs to be part of the counter culture..
Be straight, get married, have kids, be a family man, go to church.
Be straight, get married, have kids, be a family man, go to church.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 7:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong
Probably on the spectrum.
Except he didn't used to be this way. He went to college and got a Chem E degree. He had a good job. He used to love to golf.
Now he thinks everything he ever did is bullshite and that everyone around him is perpetuating the bullshite.
This post isn't really about him, per se. It's about a mentally ill society..
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 7:59 am
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:02 am to Jax-Tiger
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Now he thinks everything he ever did is bullshite and that everyone around him is perpetuating the bullshite.
Sounds like depression maybe. Mid-life crisis?
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:07 am to Jax-Tiger
If you look at biological life on this planet the path of self denial and judgement isn't normal. Animals don't care if they overeat, impregnate many females, rape young, kill each other, abandon young, or any rules. Many sections of the political left feel this same way. Sexual perversion and over indulgence of the senses.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:08 am to Jax-Tiger
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He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong - arbitrary standards put on us by a controlling society. Going to school, getting a job, meeting a woman and getting married, buying a home, etc, are all standards that sheep follow.
Because no one ever explained why it was important.
Society has become so atomized that everyone forgot what values built our society or how we live in community with one another.
Decades of families and communities torn apart by self-interest economics and career choices have disintegrated the values and community.(You're considered a loser if you're still living back in your hometown after HS)
Lots of "conservative" boomers never explained to their kids anything about marriage and we're only fiscally conservative.
How many lefties do you know that call themselves "fiscally conservative socially liberal ". These are the perfect products of boomer culture. No values only money and materialism.
It's not a shock younger generations are completely disconnected from a lot of society-building institutions.
This post was edited on 4/19/24 at 8:09 am
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:08 am to Jax-Tiger
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He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong - arbitrary standards put on us by a controlling society. Going to school, getting a job, meeting a woman and getting married, buying a home, etc, are all standards that sheep follow
Is he a Jim Morrison fan? Sounds like someone I know.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:10 am to Jax-Tiger
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He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong - arbitrary standards put on us by a controlling society. Going to school, getting a job, meeting a woman and getting married, buying a home, etc, are all standards that sheep follow.
Tbh he’s not wrong. Maybe he learned the system is bullshite and this great life you’ve been told about isn’t so great when you’re a corporate slave going through the motions during a time where the world is fricked.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:13 am to momentoftruth87
Exactly. I can totally understand why someone doesn't want to slave away every day in a meaningless job, then work hard to find a somewhat compatible woman and get involved in a relationship that may or may not work out.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:14 am to Jax-Tiger
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Now he thinks everything he ever did is bullshite and that everyone around him is perpetuating the bullshite.
Did he go have ego death in a Peruvian jungle? Acid or shrooms?
No bullshine, psychedelics will lead some to the conclusion that everything they ever did or will ever do is a charade.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:20 am to Jax-Tiger
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Except he didn't used to be this way. He went to college and got a Chem E degree. He had a good job. He used to love to golf.
Now he thinks everything he ever did is bullshite and that everyone around him is perpetuating the bullshite.
This post isn't really about him, per se. It's about a mentally ill society..
The whole Covid deal did quite a number on a huge segment of the populous.
I’d argue it probably had an effect on everyone to a degree, but it REALLY hit a lot of people quite hard. You can’t just completely upend basically every facet of everything like that, and not realize a lot of people are going to have a difficult time switching back to “normal” once it’s over.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:20 am to Jax-Tiger
There's a direct correlation between "Normal" and your ability to ignore Sociopaths. You don't need reasons for not having reasons to feel and act the way you do. Now go do the right thing.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:22 am to Jax-Tiger
I’ve heard that a big cause of depression is when every thing turns inward, kinda like a narcissist on steroids. I think we all have that potential because we obviously only see the world from our own view. That’s why recognizing a power greater than ourselves is important. If you’re looking at your purpose as a fulfillment of a plan God has played out for you, you start looking more outwardly. That’s why the ridiculousness that we all just evolved by chance and have no real eternal purpose is and has become a danger to our society. You can’t teach purposeless ness and immediate gratification without consequences.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:24 am to Jax-Tiger
I used to be that way. I think the problem lies in having nothing to believe in outside of yourself. It leaves a hole and you try and fill it with empty things like money, status, possessions, conquests, things, etc. Over time, those things will stop being fulfilling. Then bitterness begins to sink in and when you reach that point, you're a victim. When you're a victim, you will learn to hate everything over time, but most of all, yourself. And you'll need twice as many reasons why the world fricked you to be able to live with that self-loathing.
Personally, I've always had great family and eventually met my wonderful wife (no pics) who helped me overcome a toxic attitude toward faith. I still struggle with it and I still struggle with people, my job and lots of things, but I don't feel like the bitterness has hooks in me anymore.
Popular culture wants you to worship cheap things and flawed people. Our own particular pop culture likes to run down family, destroy heroism and reduces spiritualism into some cheap mini-mall feel good industry. I think all of these things are slowly chipping away at mental health in this country. When you feel promised big things and the sum of that is new Ford Bronco or a race for more likes on a social media site, it's going to end in feelings of failure and depression.
Personally, I've always had great family and eventually met my wonderful wife (no pics) who helped me overcome a toxic attitude toward faith. I still struggle with it and I still struggle with people, my job and lots of things, but I don't feel like the bitterness has hooks in me anymore.
Popular culture wants you to worship cheap things and flawed people. Our own particular pop culture likes to run down family, destroy heroism and reduces spiritualism into some cheap mini-mall feel good industry. I think all of these things are slowly chipping away at mental health in this country. When you feel promised big things and the sum of that is new Ford Bronco or a race for more likes on a social media site, it's going to end in feelings of failure and depression.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:26 am to Jax-Tiger
China and Russia have played the long game on subverting the family structure that once dominated our country. We’ve been under attack through our universities and now the tech sector for decades. The fruit of their labor is finally blossoming.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:27 am to Jax-Tiger
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But he struggles - he can't keep a job, stay in a relationship, and deals with anger issues.
He considers everything that most of us consider to be normal as wrong -
Maybe having those sheepish things plus God in your life gives you a stable peace and calming, and he wouldn't have all those problems if he wasn't reject a normal life.
Liberal mentality is that's "It's my life ill do what I want."
Well, if you want to drink whiskey from 5am on everyday, it's your fault when you have problems, not societies.
Posted on 4/19/24 at 8:29 am to Jax-Tiger
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Going to school
This can take a lot of different forms. Learning is important but it might be welding school instead of a university.
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getting a job
Yeah, work of some sort is important. That's why it's normal.
If he doesn't want to get married or own a home, whatever, but you can't just toss the basic building blocks of a society and decide that the only people who do them are "sheep".
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