re: Who’s in the wrong? Police cruiser vs. ATV

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frick off, a cop doesn’t get to wreck someone just because he’s a cop.

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I guess you never saw a cop do a PIT maneuver, you know, where they intentionally wreck someone.

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I guess you never saw a cop do a PIT maneuver, you know, where they intentionally wreck someone.

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That’s in commission of a felony and the vehicle is clearly evading.

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Mans you gave us like 8 hypotheticals that didn’t make any sense and didn’t have anything to do with this situation

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They all were based on doing an act to prevent what people may see as probable harm to others. That was what it had to do with it.

If all of my situations would have been wrong to do in the eyes of the law…. What made the OP right?

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He’s a cop so he’ll walk and face zero consequences.

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The car did it, just like you would blame the atv if that guy killed a bunch of pedestrians.

Just watched the video:

The cop was going slow up the road w/his lights on. When he sees the ATV he stops to block him while still.leaving room for other pedestrians/bike riders.

That motherfricker was going so fast on the ATV that he might have killed someone had he hit them. He broke the damn windshield of the cruiser due to his speed and force of hitting the car. Imagine hitting a pedestrian(s)/bike rider at that speed? frick that guy.

The cop did everything right.

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agreed, the cop used his car as a weapon to stop the guy, that is excessive force x10, and its no different then if the cop causes him to run straight into a brick wall and instant death

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ATV was a weapon being pointed at pedestrians and mere seconds from hitting its target.

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If you see protesters blocking a road and there is an ambulance with its lights and sirens on that is being held up… can you run through the protesters to open up a lane?

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There have been situations where people used their cars to open up lanes in these protests and the DA opted to not press charges and some of the Sheriff's have stated there were no laws broken to charge the driver. So it would appear you could use your vehicle to drive through protestors to create an opening for an ambulance.

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Just because a cop witnesses a misdemeanor offense, that doesn’t clear him of wrongdoing to stop it. Name an instance where a cop can just cut in front of another oncoming vehicle suddenly if that vehicle is currently guilty of nothing but a simple traffic infraction.

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I don't follow police and record every encounter; however, in my youthful heavy speeding days I have a number of encounters where a cop walked onto a highway to force me to stop, and 1 instance where a cop pulled his motorcycle out in front of me to stop me for doing 30 in a 20.

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If a motorcycle jumps up onto a sidewalk to get around a vehicle.. can you just walk up and shove them over?

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If I were close enough to a motorcycle on a sidewalk for me to shove them; then I would venture to guess that I would be able to legally push them over as I was standing my ground and in fear of great bodily harm as I just witnessed them jump a sidewalk near me.

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Hell… if someone blows through a yield sign and you have time and space to avoid collision with them, can you still hit them and claim it their fault because of the original infraction?

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Many scenarios to consider, but there are situation where you technically could. If someone breaks a traffic law/rule; you are not required to operate your vehicle in an unsafe manner (slamming on your breaks in certain situation could result in an unsafe manner), in order to protect the individual that just violated the traffic sign. You can't chase them down, but if you were driving safely within the recommended speed limit and were not given enough time to stop; you do not have to prove that you did everything you could to prevent said accident

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Anyone that claims that “the ATV should have stopped” has never owned one. That dude couldn’t stop at that speed with all terrain tires on it.

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No one is claiming he should have just stopped. They are stating eh should have not been there, he was driving the ATV in an unsafe manner and was unable to control the ATV, and if he could not avoid the cop car, he had no shot at avoiding that family a few feet further up the road.

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You are arguing from the “the a-hole deserved it” angle with a lot of “should have” and “might have” thrown in.

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No, I’m arguing that the cop protected the innocent people on the walking path from getting maimed.

Look at the snapshot I posted and tell me how the ATV rider was going to dodge the pedestrians if he couldn’t dodge a police car with fricking flashing lights.

The fact that the a-hole deserved it has nothing to do with the fact that the cop did what he had to do to protect the public. Without even getting into the fact that the cop could barely even see the ATV when he started pulling into the left lane. That’s how fast the guy was going. You’re acting like the cop ran over him and that’s not remotely true.

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I’m just asking what the law says.

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Well, the law says that the only motorized vehicles allowed on that road are emergency vehicles.

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Based on your way of thinking…. Can we charge DUI drivers with attempted homicide if they were caught near pedestrians?

a-hole protestors deserve to be ran over when blocking emergency vehicles in life or death situations too. Just because they deserve it and it can save a life… what happens if you do just that?

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These hypotheticals have nothing to do with the situation in the OP, no matter how many times you repeat them in an effort to steer the argument to something unrelated. But I can give you plenty of real world scenarios where cops can and do take actions that put criminals’ lives at risk in the interest of protecting the public. Spike strips and PIT maneuvers require a lot more action from the police than pulling over and stopping, which is what this cop did.