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re: A pitcher hasn’t pitched 250 innings in 14 years. That's wild.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:19 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:19 am to theunknownknight
It will never happen ever again. That was then, this is now. And I don't romanticize what was, for everyone who survived like Ryan, there were four others who ended up on the junk heap. Ryan should not be held up as the standard, he was an absolute freak of nature.
The basic problem is the nature of the game has irrevocably changed. Back when people threw all those innings, every single solitary second of a game from the opening pitch of the first inning to the last pitch of the ninth inning was not a "game moment." As in winning and losing was riding on literally every action taken in the game.
There was a certain rhythm to the game, ebbs and flows, the pitchers may have been throwing a jillion pitches but they also would pace themselves, even Ryan. It wasn't balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out on every freaking pitch.
It is now, with little middle infielders like Altuve (not picking on him, he's a representative example that popped into my mind to amplify the point) capable of driving the ball 450 on any pitch. So teams want an arm out there capable of going balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out with every pitch.
Plus there's the fact that these people are business investments as much as they are athletes and competitors these days.
The basic problem is the nature of the game has irrevocably changed. Back when people threw all those innings, every single solitary second of a game from the opening pitch of the first inning to the last pitch of the ninth inning was not a "game moment." As in winning and losing was riding on literally every action taken in the game.
There was a certain rhythm to the game, ebbs and flows, the pitchers may have been throwing a jillion pitches but they also would pace themselves, even Ryan. It wasn't balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out on every freaking pitch.
It is now, with little middle infielders like Altuve (not picking on him, he's a representative example that popped into my mind to amplify the point) capable of driving the ball 450 on any pitch. So teams want an arm out there capable of going balls to the wall, pedal to the metal all-out with every pitch.
Plus there's the fact that these people are business investments as much as they are athletes and competitors these days.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 8:42 am to InkStainedWretch
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It will never happen ever again. That was then, this is now. And I don't romanticize what was, for everyone who survived like Ryan, there were four others who ended up on the junk heap. Ryan should not be held up as the standard, he was an absolute freak of nature.
You have more ending up in the junk heap and arm injuries now than you did them. It's all about mindset and actually "pitching" instead of "muh spin rate, Ah can throw it through a brick wall hurr durr". I love how these organizations set these "innings limits" and you still have a shite ton of injuries and these pitchers never develop or learn to actually pitch. You gave one example, Nolan Ryan, and called him a freak of nature. Dude, all the pitchers from that era(late 60's-early 2000) were iron men. Arm injuries happen in baseball. The human body is not made to throw a baseball the way we do. All this "just get me through five innings" crap has made the injuries worse.
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