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Posted on 4/16/24 at 8:43 am to WDE24
they can if you request it. shitty pcp will tell you....you dont need all that. they are wrong. good pcp will say, sure and get you the information. information is power.
Posted on 4/16/24 at 11:10 am to Big Scrub TX
other option is the marek complete. If you have not done a panel and a while and want a complete picture or if you or older, i suggest this one. its more complete than any other lab panel out there.
which includes the following
LINK
Lab markers included in this MALE panel:
Sex Hormones:
Total Testosterone (LC/MS) [uncapped]
Free Testosterone (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) [uncapped]
Estradiol, Sensitive / Ultrasensitive (LC/MS)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
Progesterone
Prolactin
Cortisol
Gonadotropins:
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Neurosteroids:
Pregnenolone
Dehydroepiandrosterone Sulfate (DHEA-S)
Thyroid:
TSH
Free T3
Free T4
Thyroglobulin Antibody (tgAb)
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody (TPOab)
Reverse T3
Growth Hormone/IGF-1:
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-1)
Lipids:
ApoA1
ApoB
ApoA1:ApoB Ratio
Total Cholesterol
HDL Cholesterol
LDL Cholesterol
LDL:HDL Ratio
VLDL Cholesterol
Triglycerides
Lipoprotein(a)
Blood:
Complete Blood Count w/ Differential (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count (RBC); red cell count; white blood cell count (WBC))
Reticulocyte Count
Metabolic:
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (albumin:globulin (A:G) ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; bilirubin, total; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; globulin, total; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum)
Insulin Sensitivity:
Blood glucose
Fasting Insulin
HbA1c
Uric Acid
Liver Function:
AST
ALT
BUN
Bilirubin, Total
?-Glutamyl Transferase (GGT)
Kidney Function:
Creatinine w/ eGFR
SDMA (Symmetric Dimethylarginine)
Vitamins:
Vitamin D, 25-OHD (25-Hydroxy)
Vitamin B12
VItamin B9 (Folate) / Folic Acid
Magnesium, RBC
Iron Panel:
Iron
Transferrin Saturation / Iron Saturation
TIBC
UIBC
Ferritin
Inflammatory Markers:
C-Reactive Protein, High Sensitivity (hsCRP)
Heart Health:
ADMA (Asymmetric Dimethylarginine)
Homocyst(e)ine
Trimethylamine N-oxide (TMAO)
Fibrinogen (Factor I) Activity
Tumor Markers:
Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA)
Urinalysis:
Complete Urinalysis (color; appearance; specific gravity; pH; protein; glucose; occult blood; ketones; leukocyte esterase; nitrite; bilirubin; urobilinogen; microscopic examination of urine sediment)
which includes the following
LINK
Lab markers included in this MALE panel:
Sex Hormones:
Total Testosterone (LC/MS) [uncapped]
Free Testosterone (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) [uncapped]
Estradiol, Sensitive / Ultrasensitive (LC/MS)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG)
Progesterone
Prolactin
Cortisol
Gonadotropins:
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Neurosteroids:
Pregnenolone
Dehydroepiandrosterone Sulfate (DHEA-S)
Thyroid:
TSH
Free T3
Free T4
Thyroglobulin Antibody (tgAb)
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibody (TPOab)
Reverse T3
Growth Hormone/IGF-1:
Insulin-Like Growth Factor I (IGF-1)
Lipids:
ApoA1
ApoB
ApoA1:ApoB Ratio
Total Cholesterol
HDL Cholesterol
LDL Cholesterol
LDL:HDL Ratio
VLDL Cholesterol
Triglycerides
Lipoprotein(a)
Blood:
Complete Blood Count w/ Differential (Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count (RBC); red cell count; white blood cell count (WBC))
Reticulocyte Count
Metabolic:
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (albumin:globulin (A:G) ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; bilirubin, total; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; globulin, total; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum)
Insulin Sensitivity:
Blood glucose
Fasting Insulin
HbA1c
Uric Acid
Liver Function:
AST
ALT
BUN
Bilirubin, Total
?-Glutamyl Transferase (GGT)
Kidney Function:
Creatinine w/ eGFR
SDMA (Symmetric Dimethylarginine)
Vitamins:
Vitamin D, 25-OHD (25-Hydroxy)
Vitamin B12
VItamin B9 (Folate) / Folic Acid
Magnesium, RBC
Iron Panel:
Iron
Transferrin Saturation / Iron Saturation
TIBC
UIBC
Ferritin
Inflammatory Markers:
C-Reactive Protein, High Sensitivity (hsCRP)
Heart Health:
ADMA (Asymmetric Dimethylarginine)
Homocyst(e)ine
Trimethylamine N-oxide (TMAO)
Fibrinogen (Factor I) Activity
Tumor Markers:
Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA)
Urinalysis:
Complete Urinalysis (color; appearance; specific gravity; pH; protein; glucose; occult blood; ketones; leukocyte esterase; nitrite; bilirubin; urobilinogen; microscopic examination of urine sediment)
Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:14 pm to DrDenim
I’m in the same boat,
I’m 42
My test levels were 240
I lift 2-4 times per week plus 2-4 days a week of jiu jitsu
I just haven’t had as much motivation to train jiu jitsu over the past 3-4 months plus my body is taking to recover. Sex drive I don’t have a problem with however. I was also averaging 5/6 hours of sleep at best.
I finally decided to do trt
Not sure if I should do glp-1 and bpc-157
I’m 5’10, 215 and have horrible sugar cravings at night only
I’m 42
My test levels were 240
I lift 2-4 times per week plus 2-4 days a week of jiu jitsu
I just haven’t had as much motivation to train jiu jitsu over the past 3-4 months plus my body is taking to recover. Sex drive I don’t have a problem with however. I was also averaging 5/6 hours of sleep at best.
I finally decided to do trt
Not sure if I should do glp-1 and bpc-157
I’m 5’10, 215 and have horrible sugar cravings at night only
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 7:17 am
Posted on 5/2/24 at 11:18 am to StringedInstruments
You cant just take a snapshot of your T levels and make a judgement.
All that said, I think you are doing too much. Your body is probably in too much of a stressed state with not enough rest. Id try cutting out the running and replace it with weighed walks or incline walking.
The workouts, id go down to 3x/week and go full body. Id remove exercises and sets until you start feeling better during workouts. Find your sweet spot of work. You should shoot for the satisfied feeling, not the broken down feeling after lifts. Leave a little in the tank...you can always add more later if your body can handle it.
This is because high intensity complex lifts like squats/deads heavily tax your nervous system. Id try sticking to one day of high intensity legs.
Some of us have the same struggle. I have to occasionally do a long fast to reset. The more sugar I eat, the hungrier I am and the more I want. What works for me is a simple treat. Either 1 banana or one soft serve ice cream from Mcdonalds or DQ. If you can build up the discipline, add in one cheat day. For me its Cracker Barrel Pancakes on Saturday. The rest of the week for me is usually bacon, eggs, steak and a banana or soft serve.
In all honesty, you are already doing better than most of the population
All that said, I think you are doing too much. Your body is probably in too much of a stressed state with not enough rest. Id try cutting out the running and replace it with weighed walks or incline walking.
The workouts, id go down to 3x/week and go full body. Id remove exercises and sets until you start feeling better during workouts. Find your sweet spot of work. You should shoot for the satisfied feeling, not the broken down feeling after lifts. Leave a little in the tank...you can always add more later if your body can handle it.
quote:
I get really tired the afternoons after exercising and I’m zonked the next day. After squats or deadlifts, I’ll be irritable, kind of depressed. Just want to lay around not because of soreness but because of being drained of life.
This is because high intensity complex lifts like squats/deads heavily tax your nervous system. Id try sticking to one day of high intensity legs.
quote:
I binge sugar almost every day. It’s a problem that probably needs a therapist to address.
Some of us have the same struggle. I have to occasionally do a long fast to reset. The more sugar I eat, the hungrier I am and the more I want. What works for me is a simple treat. Either 1 banana or one soft serve ice cream from Mcdonalds or DQ. If you can build up the discipline, add in one cheat day. For me its Cracker Barrel Pancakes on Saturday. The rest of the week for me is usually bacon, eggs, steak and a banana or soft serve.
In all honesty, you are already doing better than most of the population
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:43 pm to lsucoonass
I was tested once in my early 30’s while I was in the Army, they were “normal” but at the minimal normal level
And I was tested about 2 years ago, low levels through bloodwork by the VA, they recommend an MRI for my brain to rule out a tumor, and still didn’t recommend testosterone despite me being a 100% disabled veteran
And I was tested about 2 years ago, low levels through bloodwork by the VA, they recommend an MRI for my brain to rule out a tumor, and still didn’t recommend testosterone despite me being a 100% disabled veteran
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:55 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:
StringedInstruments
I've been in the same boat as you going on about 18 months
42 y/o
6'3"
195
I workout 3 days a week, and am in decent shape. I carry extra weight in my lovehandles and I hate it. I am the same with sweets as well. I eat well for B/L/D, but every few weeks I go crazy on sugar around 8 pm.
I find myself tired all the time. I usually workout 3 days a week after work and it is getting harder and harder to find motivation. I'm sore after every workout- almost like I am out of shape.
Sex is the same way you described. I know I like it, I can get it up anytime, but I am never "horny" anymore.
I went and got full labs done last summer and my Total Test was 600, and Free Test was 6.1. The total number is great but the free is showing a little lower than normal. My PCP didn't seem to think anything was wrong, but here I am almost a year later and feel the same way. I was expecting my total T to be a lot lower.
I ran a half marathon in Jan 2023 and entertained the idea of training for it again last fall. I ran for about 2 weeks before I gave it up. I just didn't have the "want to".
All of that being said, I haven't done anything to change it, other than hope the feeling goes away. I attribute it to getting older, but man it seems like something more than that.
Just wanted you to know you're not alone.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:11 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:
For me its Cracker Barrel Pancakes on Saturday.
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