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re: Is Catholic (2024 baseball) the best team ever from Louisiana?

Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:25 am to
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:25 am to
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Hope they fall on their face

Too late, bud.

And they were better than IMG.

Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12442 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:33 am to
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Catholic had the best team money could buy!! They trying to be IMG Academy!! Hope they fall on their face




I’ve said it before but 4 starters were from one middle school. Probably another 6 from that same school are on varsity.. all the other starters I think were from Catholic middle schools or went to Catholic in 8th grade..


I’d love to hear where and who these kids were from that got “Bought”
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:05 am to
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I’ve said it before but 4 starters were from one middle school. Probably another 6 from that same school are on varsity.. all the other starters I think were from Catholic middle schools or went to Catholic in 8th grade..


I’d love to hear where and who these kids were from that got “Bought”


you have to understand though...when he says best money can buy, what he really means is


catholic evened the playing field with the local public schools and made the cost of school zero

to him that means bought


now, catholic didnt really do that, but in his mind and many fricked up individuals here....thats cheating. How dare a private school give parents choices.

Didnt you know, the school district that those kids live in, owns their talents. They live there so they must be a slave to that home district. the people of that district deserve to have them play at home!!!


i dont think people understand wtf they are talking about when it comes to recruiting and accusing others of not playing by the same set of rules.

its all low iq people with the inability to think critically about things. All emotions
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96068 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:14 am to
The studs for Catholic, Schmidt and Ruckert, are from Catholic k-8 schools and 100% are paying full tuition

I guess the poster thinks they should have been forced to go play baseball for McKinley and Glen Oaks
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:24 am to
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The studs for Catholic, Schmidt and Ruckert, are from Catholic k-8 schools and 100% are paying full tuition

I guess the poster thinks they should have been forced to go play baseball for McKinley and Glen Oaks


alot of these people do.

they act like the local school district owns the kid. how dare he go pay somewhere else

but not surprising....look how many get pissed when a kid decides not to go to LSU. i mean you had people pissed on the rant that Keon Coleman didnt come to LSU despite not having an offer. Same people post on the OT about how much Louisiana sucks but how dare a kid want to go see something different

its the same thing on a city and even district level. people do not like getting left behind and feeling inadequate and they do not like seeing people that have left have success.

also posters in this thread just cant imagine a team is good year in and year out with local talent only. They must be cheating and "playing by a different set of rules." of course i shouldnt be surprised, same idiots think their district takes zero kids from out of zone
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:29 am to
Anyone who expects Baton Rouge or New Orleans kids to go to public schools are nuts

Catholic recruiting pitch :

“Do you love your kids and not one them to die? Send them here”
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:31 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:34 am to
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Anyone who expects Baton Rouge or New Orleans kids to go to public schools are nuts

Catholic recruiting pitch :

“Do you love your kids and not one them to die? Send them here”


exactly

but even in like LC area...you will have 1 legit player at a program that wins like 8 games a year and that community will get pissed if that kid leaves to go play at one of the better schools that gives him a chance at a scholarship. people also get pissed when kids leave and go to st louis. like its a slight at them or something

same in lafayette with kids going to STM and TC. Even on here you see people making fun of those schools calling them bunch of rich spoiled arse kids that are all bad.

its laughable to way people act.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30771 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:22 pm to
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by sta01234CatholicThey trying to be IMG Academy!! Hope they fall on their face


Compare the top 100 ACT scores from IMG to the lowest 100 from C


Then note C grads going to military academies and compare to IMG
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8579 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:39 pm to
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its laughable to way people act.


It really is. You’re just on the opposite side of an opinion.

JJ27 said that every kid in WM’s starting lineup except one (poor kid went straight to the draft ) went D1 one year… you think that’s normal? You think that just magically happened? How many other schools can say something like that?

You’re mocking people and laughing at them for wanting an even playing field. Teams like barbe and WM need their own classification. ‘Normal’ high schools can’t compete with that. I’m not sure what the answer is, but somethings gotta change.. maybe considering playing a national schedule or something like that. But for you guys to churn out the rosters like you do year in and year out is crazy. For you to be so sure that everything is on the up and up is even crazier

Again, I’ve never said anything rude or disparaging to you. Not sure why you feel the need to mock people and say shite like you are right now.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96068 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:42 pm to
I agree with you there should be a “pinnacle classification” for Louisiana sports

Rummel
Catholic
Jesuit
Acadiana
Destrehan
WM
Barbe
Zachary
Etc etc

Problem is some schools like WM and Barbe don’t want it
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8579 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:44 pm to
That’s been my only point this whole time. I’m not saying barbe or WM is outright cheating because I’m not privy to that information. Not sure why 777 is taking this shite so personal.




quote:

Problem is zone schools like WM and Barbe don’t want it


This smells like the saban retirement. Don’t want everyone on an even playing field


quote:

Rummel
Catholic
Jesuit
Acadiana
Destrehan
WM
Barbe
Zachary
Etc etc


Think of a tournament with just these schools. That’s almost must see tv on a state level. Would be awesome
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12442 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

You’re mocking people and laughing at them for wanting an even playing field. Teams like barbe and WM need their own classification. ‘Normal’ high schools can’t compete with that. I’m not sure what the answer is, but somethings gotta change.. maybe considering playing a national schedule or something like that


Equality of outcome is the biggest pussy weak beta mentality ever spouted especially in sports.. if they break rules.. fine, punish them but complaining because they are able to accumulate talent is bush league
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8579 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:49 pm to
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complaining because they are able to accumulate talent is bush league


So is building super teams and beating up on regular teams then patting yourself on the back for it

I can see both sides of this coin… can you? Also, where’d you go to high school? Tryin to see something
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12442 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:03 pm to
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can see both sides of this coin… can you? Also, where’d you go to high school? Tryin to see something


I went to high school that’s won very few state titles and probably zero in the big 3 over the last 30 years,was able to get destroyed plenty by dynasty level teams in north Louisiana during the 90s..

Made it to the finals only to lose to a powerhouse..

My kids went and go to Catholic so I’ve seen what is possible when
programs take a serious stance in developing a program in all sports

Sports are a lot like life at this level.. ups and downs but the teams that consistently put in the work including attracting students to come often have the most consistent success

ETA. Catholic has beenon a a great run across the board but I’m willing to bet that they have an off run coming down the line.. they’ve had a lot of things go their way these last few years
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 4:18 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:25 pm to
Because it’s a cop out. I am privy to the information and posted proof that it’s on the up and up in the other thread

But I’ll ask you this, barbe just post the ship this weekend and they were already having tryouts on Monday before rain made them push it. Whole returning team has been lifting starting Monday and have had hours long player led practices since weather broke and I saw kids up there hitting at almost 8 last night.

Before you criticize and say the fields is not even, then ask yourself if the players at your school have the same dedication

And I’m not taking it personally, I just know how a program should be run and the type of dedication it takes from the coaching staff and the players to create and maintain a championship program and you are selling them short because your team doesn’t do those kinds of things.

Ask yourself too, does your school have a year around strength program for the baseball only kids, does it have a year long throwing program to build velo, does it have an arm care program, does it have a off season bat speed program….then ask if they do have all these, are they being tracked. Also ask if your catcher are getting separate work including throwing velo and pop time work.

If not then that’s on y’all’s coach and his lack of dedication because barbe, WM, Catholic, Sam Houston, St. Louis etc all have that.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30771 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:35 pm to
Are all 9 starters from this years catholic team getting baseball schollies at D1 level? Just talked to a player from Jesuit 80 team and he said 9 from that team did. So I would think that adds some debate to the debate.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12442 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:41 pm to
5 are committed including Schmidt from starting lineup. One senior is done playing and 3 juniors aren’t committed but I’d think they’ll have the opportunity to play at the next level. Their no2 starter is going to Loyola or UNO, can’t remember which one. They have another that signed with LSU as a pitcher but he’s injured.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3281 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:53 pm to
I only saw Catholic play one game - against Jesuit. But they are an extraordinarily well-coached team. Everything they did in warmups and the game was done with purpose and conviction and excellent fundamentals. Fundamentally, they looked better than LSU (Catholic could lay down a bunt).
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8579 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Before you criticize and say the fields is not even, then ask yourself if the players at your school have the same dedication


Yes our kids do work year round, but everything you posted requires money and the horses to run it, which most normal high schools don’t have, which takes us back to my original point. Y’all need your own classification for all these super sport schools.

shite, most normal high schools can’t keep a decent coach around for more than 2-3 years. Does Barbe’s coach have to be a teacher as well? Or is baseball his only job? Serious question
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12442 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Yes our kids do work year round, but everything you posted requires money and the horses to run it, which most normal high schools don’t have, which takes us back to my original point. Y’all need your own classification for all these super sport schools.


But it’s possible. Barbe wasn’t Barbe until the current Duo took charge. Catholic was always good but never really great at anything until the last 15 or so years when the mindset began to change. WM has been all over the map in athletics and seemingly have flipped from a football factory to a baseball factory. Programs have to find “it”, whatever that is and put in the work. And yes it’s easier for some but that’s life..

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