re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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KYIV, May 3 (Reuters) - British Foreign Secretary David Cameron promised three billion pounds ($3.74 billion) of annual military aid for Ukraine for "as long as it takes" on Thursday, adding that London had no objection to the weapons being used inside Russia.

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Cameron said Ukraine had a right to use the weapons provided by London to strike targets inside Russia, and that it was up to Kyiv whether to do so. "Ukraine has that right. Just as Russia is striking inside Ukraine, you can quite understand why Ukraine feels the need to make sure it's defending itself," Cameron told Reuters outside St. Michael's Cathedral.

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This is significant. If Ukraine now has the Ok to hit targets within Russia with the Storm Shadow missiles, this brings anything within 550km (340 mi) in range.

Cameron speaks.

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Thats kind of just common sense though. There isn't a form of government without weakness. His flaw is thinking that because democracy has a weakness that the entire system is weak, which is obviously not true.

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It's more than that if you watch Alexander Dugin's interview with Tucker the Stupid Phucker.. He thinks that when Western Europeans left the Catholic Church, it was because of individualism which leads LGBT and Transhumanism even. Some really sick phucks, IMO

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He thinks that when Western Europeans left the Catholic Church, it was because of individualism which leads LGBT and Transhumanism even.

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Reneé Guénon made this point in the 20th century, I would be surprised if he was the first person to do so. Guénon himself goes to back to Plato to explain why our ideas are so dangerous.

He was right unfortunately, our belief system in the West is built on the idea of nominalism, and it is endlessly destructive. If you believe labels are artificial, man, woman, child, and don’t reflect an underlying reality and connection, there will ultimately be no order to society. The culture will instead destroy all of the bonds that glued us together. Liberalism (nominalism) killed the aristocracy and destroyed the church in the West, but as we see now, it’s destroying the very idea of human connection and gender. Logically this process will continue until society is so damaged that it cannot continue.

In both cases you’re looking at an oligarchy, or a plutocracy, if you want to use that word.

There are cultural differences between how each state operates, but the structure is the same, and it’s the same classes of people who rule.

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The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence. Our results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

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Thats kind of just common sense though. There isn't a form of government without weakness. His flaw is thinking that because democracy has a weakness that the entire system is weak, which is obviously not true.

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I thoroughly agree... but this is the pitch that he and Xi and Khomeini and Kim and the other dictators (even if they have some pretense of elected leadership in their countries at some level) are making to the "developing world." "You are better off under a strong (man) leader!!!" Internally, they all also depict the US as a Hollywood movie set for the world's benefit and more like Somalia when you walk two blocks away... of course, you can take a phone camera and capture something in Los Angeles these days that does look like that, unfortunately...

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Same thing happened in WW2. They were getting tens and hundreds of thousands of men captured in the early part of the german offensive. Yet at the end of the war they had 3 million men on the door step of Berlin.

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This is the "why now" part of the equation for Russia, though.

The (peasant) population in the rural areas is crashing... sending the young males from Moscow and St. Petersberg to die is national suicide...

Russian population pyramid

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I grew up in the Episcopal Church, Protestantism is heresy

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Uh. Is someone gonna tell him?

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In both cases you’re looking at an oligarchy, or a plutocracy, if you want to use that word.

There are cultural differences between how each state operates, but the structure is the same, and it’s the same classes of people who rule.

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A Marxist among us!!!

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Reneé Guénon made this point in the 20th century, I would be surprised if he was the first person to do so. Guénon himself goes to back to Plato to explain why our ideas are so dangerous. He was right unfortunately, our belief system in the West is built on the idea of nominalism, and it is endlessly destructive. If you believe labels are artificial, man, woman, child, and don’t reflect an underlying reality and connection, there will ultimately be no order to society. The culture will instead destroy all of the bonds that glued us together. Liberalism (nominalism) killed the aristocracy and destroyed the church in the West, but as we see now, it’s destroying the very idea of human connection and gender. Logically this process will continue until society is so damaged that it cannot continue.

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You clearly have a problem with evil western things like Enlightenment values, empiricism, rationalism, etc.

It’s obvious you prefer the occultism and mysticism of the East. Please. fricking go and don’t look back. I don’t know what the frick happened in your life to make you so ill, but you are in the wrong place.

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In both cases you’re looking at an oligarchy, or a plutocracy, if you want to use that word.


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We're not bound to anything here... we are a "plutocracy of the willing," as it were... we (the people) have the means to tax and take power from our "plutocrats," we just don't do it. The post-Reconstruction national Democratic party (back when it had a total lock on the South and rural areas) was mostly dedicated to fighting Wall Street, Bankers and Corporations on behalf of Labor. Post-Nixon that Democratic co-hort and the Republican urban educated professional class started both migrating to the opposite party... and that pro-Labor/anti-Corporatist thing did not survive that... we have two parties that say populist things when it suits them but don't really kill themselves trying to do any of it, because there's no repercussions for them if they don't, another Culture War issue pops up and everybody forgets about it.

But our "plutocrats" have earned their position, and they don't necessarily get to just keep it if they don't keep delivering.

Yeltsin's transitionary Russia saw the old Communist Party elites become business tycoons... the guy who ran a refinery just purchased it from the State for ridiculously low sums in an IOU and became an instant billionaire. Putin then weened that class down to the people who pledged total loyalty to him and the others fell out of windows, or killed their families before shooting themselves in the back of the head,

China had its weird period where business tycoons did arise... and Xi thought this was dangerous, so when he took over the ones who had not moved off disappeared for a while then came back strangely subservient and dedicated to the CCP as the center of life (a "Re-education Vacation").

We're not the same... and we're not "just as bad." We're not perfect... but we could get close... it on us that we don't straighten things out.