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re: 2024 Spring Garden Thread

Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:19 am to
After last year's drought, I'm grateful for the rain we've gotten this year. It didn't matter how much I watered, it wasn't enough.

With potatoes out, I should be on track to start peas and okra before Memorial Day.

Eta: we also picked out first handful of snap beans yesterday. Bells and jalapeno starting to come in too.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12892 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:51 am to
I’m dealing with some really high winds here in TX panhandle. I had planned on using the weave to support my peppers and tomatoes, but not sure it’s going to provide enough support. Anyone have any success using that method in high wind conditions? Or just bite the bullet and buy a bunch of cages?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:00 am to
quote:

After last year's drought, I'm grateful for the rain

2.25” in 2 days here
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29176 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I had planned on using the weave to support my peppers and tomatoes, but not sure it’s going to provide enough support
The weave will work with enough stakes in between plants for support
quote:

2.25” in 2 days here
Had that in a couple hours last night...as long as you can drain it, it's not a big deal.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12870 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

as long as you can drain it, it's not a big deal.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:03 pm to
What does everyone use for weed control in gardens and your lawn in general? Preferably something that is hooked up to the hose. Is there anything available on the Do My Own site that is better than the stuff you get from home depot?

Ive used these before and the results are just so so

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38978 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 1:11 pm to
30% vinegar and dawn dish soap
kills them dead
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14824 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

What does everyone use for weed control in gardens


Thick layer of pine straw mulch and hand pulling.

Very rarely do I have to resort to chemical control. If I do it’ll be with sethoxydim for invading grass, or very carefully administered glyphosate for everything else.

Stay away from potentially volatile broadleaf herbicides like dicamba and 2,4-D around the garden. Even on your surrounding lawn. Even if you don’t accidentally spray it on your desired plants, they can vaporize and still kill sensitive plants like tomatoes. It’s called volatilization. I learned the hard way one day years ago. I sprayed my yard with the winter weed cocktail one early spring morning. A little later I moved my seedlings outside a couple hours after I had sprayed. It warmed up nicely and I can remember getting a faint whiff of the Weed-Free-Zone smell in the air. Ended up losing all of my seedlings.

For my lawn I’ll spot spray my front lawn with Celsius. But I don’t spray anything in my backyard while the garden is growing.

ETA: The vinegar spray will work well to burn down some weeds. But perennials could potentially keep coming back. But it is a fairly safe option.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 3:33 pm to
First post in this thread this year.

First year of gardening was a disaster. This year has started out slightly better, I have two jalapeno plants already producing more than I got all of last year. The jalapenos are about half the size of the entire plant

My potted "backup" tomatoes and cherry tomatoes are actually doing better than my raised bed tomatoes so that's a little frustrating.

My banana pepper have barely grown an inch, which is disappointing given the rain here in N LA.

Squirrels have gotten after my cucumbers Going to buy an airsoft gun to try and get rid of them.

Too early to tell this year but this year , although better than last, is not off to a great start.

Though my flowerbed look amazing. Just not my garden.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12892 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:07 pm to
Thanks noted. Now I need some to make it more than 2 days. Got home from work just now and half the tomato stems have been cut off. Not sure what did it, they were fine this morning when I left.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

Thick layer of pine straw mulch and hand pulling.



I do a lot of hand pulling. Wont be able to use pine straw because I am already using a different kind of mulch.

quote:


Stay away from potentially volatile broadleaf herbicides like dicamba and 2,4-D around the garden


Yea Ive noticed the sprayer will hurt my mondo grass(or whatever its called).

quote:

For my lawn I’ll spot spray my front lawn with Celsius. But I don’t spray anything in my backyard while the garden is growing.



For big areas of grass, is the sprayer I use still not a good option?

I dont grow any food in my gardens anymore if that means anything going forward.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14824 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:32 pm to
I personally don’t like to use hose end sprayers to apply herbicide. It’s too difficult to control the amount of product you are putting down. That’s a personal preference. But if it’s worked for you in the past then I don’t see a reason for you to stop.

quote:

I dont grow any food in my gardens anymore if that means anything going forward.


In that case you can apply whatever you like and just be careful to not get any on your desired plants.

ETA: if you have established plants you could apply a pre emergent like Preen. I’m not sure what other pre emergent herbicides are ok to use in the garden. In the lawn there are quite a few options like prodiamine and dithiopyr, among others.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36937 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:55 pm to
Spectacide hose end sprayer is a good product. I've found people displeased with it aren't using according to directions...applying it when too hot, too cold, etc.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2758 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:44 pm to
My tomatoes, squash/zucchini and peppers are slowly coming in. Beans & cucumbers were planted about a week & a half late so will be waiting on them a while longer.

Last weekend, I built myself a tomato cage out of a cattle panel. I had planned on building 20 . After just the one, I realized that's not happening. My girly arms can't bend & hammer the corners as well a man can.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9431 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:58 pm to
Tomatoes have all of a sudden stopped blooming. Have both determinate and indeterminates. Any idea if they’ll bloom again?
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12870 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:20 pm to
Have 2-4 inches of rain predicted with isolated 6 inches tomorrow. All the onions that are close got pulled this evening. Garlic was pulled also because I am tired of the gophers gnawing on one a week.

Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
2758 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Tomatoes have all of a sudden stopped blooming.

Temperatures may be too warm.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81762 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:44 am to
Unless I drastically increase my garden space(unlikely) this is probably my last year to grow bell peppers. They do not get big enough, they do not produce enough and I would rather focus on harder to find peppers that we just use occasionally. Buying from the store just makes more sense considering the volume we use in our cooking.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9431 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Temperatures may be too warm.

About time for purple hulls then
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11496 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:12 pm to
Anybody here have passion fruit plants? I just ordered a couple from Baker Creek yesterday. I need to unsubscribe from their damn marketing emails. I'm planning on putting them in 16" pots. Big enough?
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