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re: This Pogie Hearing Tomorrow... You Baws Need to Come or Email the LDWF!
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:12 pm to Dock Holiday
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:12 pm to Dock Holiday
That is not his brother.
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:12 pm to Motorboat
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CCA needs to push for observers on boats to film what turns up in the nets, It's real simple.
That would be like doin the lord’s work on Earth Those boats stink and aren’t the safest places in the Gulf.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:09 pm to Poppy201
Commissioner Kenneth “Andy” Brister of Lake Providence admitted he first heard about “pogy boats” at a recent commission meeting.
“Please work it out,” he told the two sides. “Man, to get me involved in this is not the smartest thing to do.”
Who the frick put this dipshit on the Commission? If you are too stupid to get involved and learn about the issue then resign!
“Please work it out,” he told the two sides. “Man, to get me involved in this is not the smartest thing to do.”
Who the frick put this dipshit on the Commission? If you are too stupid to get involved and learn about the issue then resign!
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:18 pm to MrLSU
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Who the frick put this dipshit on the Commission? If you are too stupid to get involved and learn about the issue then resign!
The LDWF Commissioners are appointed by the Governor. To make matters worse, Commissioner Kevin Segrara is from Abbeville which is where an Omega Protein processing plant is located. How fricking convenient.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:28 pm to MrLSU
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Commissioner Kenneth “Andy” Brister of Lake Providence admitted he first heard about “pogy boats” at a recent commission meeting.
How the hell can a guy who is in charge of fishery management not know about the largest commercial fishing presence in Louisiana waters? This guy should not be there.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 6:18 am to TBoy
Our commission is embarrassing. Sagara was clearly on side of Omega. Luneau is from pineville. He admitted he never saltwater fished. The other old men love to share anecdotal stories that made them seem like podunk rednecks. Decuir is on our side and he just kept quiet.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:01 am to Motorboat
interesting couple of articles I found...de'ja vu'...
Saltwater Sportsman
As was discussed in the previous article on this subject, even small restrictions on this fishery are so threatening to Omega that they send busloads of employees to Virginia Marine Resources Commission (VMRC) hearings to pack the room with folks who speak out against any restriction.
Saltwater Sportsman
A similar scenario is happening in the Gulf of Mexico concerning the menhaden fishery there and efforts to rebuild speckled trout and redfish. In fact, it’s almost déjà vu all over again. There is a current effort to reconstruct the speckled trout population by increasing size limits and lowering bag limits. Recreational organizations are not supporting the measures that are being proposed by Gulf fisheries managers. The same management issues are also being addressed for red drum or “redfish” primarily in Louisiana. The measures being proposed by fisheries managers are being challenged by a variety of recreational interests. Their efforts against size limit changes and bag limit decreases are being seen by some as short sighted.
At the same time, these recreational organizations are continuing to press for more restrictions on the menhaden fishery in the Gulf. Critics say that these recreational organizations should accept the science advice on speckled trout and redfish and leave the menhaden fishery alone. They say the menhaden fishery is being managed sustainably and it is not overfished.
Saltwater Sportsman
As was discussed in the previous article on this subject, even small restrictions on this fishery are so threatening to Omega that they send busloads of employees to Virginia Marine Resources Commission (VMRC) hearings to pack the room with folks who speak out against any restriction.
Saltwater Sportsman
A similar scenario is happening in the Gulf of Mexico concerning the menhaden fishery there and efforts to rebuild speckled trout and redfish. In fact, it’s almost déjà vu all over again. There is a current effort to reconstruct the speckled trout population by increasing size limits and lowering bag limits. Recreational organizations are not supporting the measures that are being proposed by Gulf fisheries managers. The same management issues are also being addressed for red drum or “redfish” primarily in Louisiana. The measures being proposed by fisheries managers are being challenged by a variety of recreational interests. Their efforts against size limit changes and bag limit decreases are being seen by some as short sighted.
At the same time, these recreational organizations are continuing to press for more restrictions on the menhaden fishery in the Gulf. Critics say that these recreational organizations should accept the science advice on speckled trout and redfish and leave the menhaden fishery alone. They say the menhaden fishery is being managed sustainably and it is not overfished.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:11 am to Dock Holiday
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They say the menhaden fishery is being managed sustainably and it is not overfished.
This is the problem here. This is the pogie fisheries spin on it. And they will continue to act like this is what we are mad about. No one is saying that they are overfished. Hell I don’t even know how much they catch each year but I still see plenty big balls right off beach. We are mad because their recklessness of raping other gamefish with no repercussions.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:46 am to headedwest21
I do not see nearly the number of schools of pogies I used to see around Grand Isle and Fourchon. As I watch the spotter planes and giant purse seines circling right outside the surf.
And again, it’s not just a bycatch issue, it’s also them removing the bottom of the food chain. It’s no coincidence that when other states chased them away, leaving them to focus all their efforts on Louisiana, encounters with sharks and dolphins taking our fish increased exponentially.
All this primarily to feed the worlds cats.
And again, it’s not just a bycatch issue, it’s also them removing the bottom of the food chain. It’s no coincidence that when other states chased them away, leaving them to focus all their efforts on Louisiana, encounters with sharks and dolphins taking our fish increased exponentially.
All this primarily to feed the worlds cats.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:59 am to Icansee4miles
Spot on
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:21 pm to Icansee4miles
Reading this thread makes me mad and I e never wetted a line in the state of Louisiana.
Not my cats. Actually, one of my outside cat's favorite food is raw venison followed by raw squirrel.
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All this primarily to feed the worlds cats
Not my cats. Actually, one of my outside cat's favorite food is raw venison followed by raw squirrel.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:13 pm to El Segundo Guy
Many of the large predator fish in the central LA coast have gone, because the pogies aren't here in numbers great enough to maintain the population. As recently as the 80s there used to be large roaming schools of Tarpon in Tiger Shoals and Eugene Island area off the mouth of the Atchafalaya. They were all feeding on menhaden, which are not as present as they used to be. Also we know that large trout and redfish eat lots of menhaden. If you want to increase the breeding population of trout, it would make sense to have as many available menhaden as possible. The fact that the recreational limits of fish have been reduced but nothing is done to the commercial limits of menhaden fishing, is really disgusting. I spend a lot of time in tiger shoals and I can tell you it is loaded with pogey boats all year long.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:17 pm to WizardSleeve
I bet the pogie men kill a lot of tarpon
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:52 pm to choupiquesushi
This crooked arse fricked up state is ridiculous. Get the frickin boats out of state waters.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:22 pm to Icansee4miles
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I do not see nearly the number of schools of pogies I used to see around Grand Isle and Fourchon. As I watch the spotter planes and giant purse seines circling right outside the surf.
Yeah, I was in Bay Eloi early two summers ago and there were pogies as far as you could see.
Didn't take long for a spotter plane to arrive and didn't take long for all of those pogies, and everything eating them, to be scooped up.
This was before I started my youtube channel and man I wish I would've had cameras back then to publicize what I saw. I don't think people can understand the scale of this problem both from the pogies and the size of their schools and from how fast it is for the pogie boats to take them all.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 3:54 pm to catchyalater
I wish you would have recorded that. it's ridiculous. this pogie business is worse than introducing a nonnative species into the environment.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:21 pm to choupiquesushi
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I bet the pogie men kill a lot of tarpon
They definitely do. I've personally seen them in Breton Sound throw three dead Tarpon overboard
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:57 am to Howard Juneau
Even Mississippi has a one mile buffer and the feds have one around the barrier islands and they enforce theirs
Posted on 2/3/24 at 1:00 am to TutHillTiger
The are basically part of the mob too.
Posted on 2/3/24 at 10:45 am to MrLSU
quote:back when gill nets were still legal we saw 5 very large tarpon in a gill net long since dead near alligator point in lake borgne /chef pass... circa 1984......
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I bet the pogie men kill a lot of tarpon
They definitely do. I've personally seen them in Breton Sound throw three dead Tarpon overboard
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