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re: California’s $20 fast food minimum wage balloons menu prices

Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4317 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:53 pm to
They probably baked the prices pre-raise (slowly) using multiple different tactics.

Then they announce the $20 minimum wage and again raise the prices.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69030 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
Labor and food costs are generally around 60% of a restaurant's expenses. Both of those have only increased.

These restaurants either have to raise prices or close.


The other costs arent going down either. Like repair and maintenance costs.






This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7643 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
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If a public companies profit, or profitability, decreases stock evaluations will go down
Fair but who does this effect beside people in the stock market. Investing is gambling essentially

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This will make borrowing money less favorable/more expensive in the future meaning companies will need to control costs even further and more harshly.


Why do you need to borrow money if you are making 10 billion in profits a year? for that matter who isn't going to be hesitant to loan a company money making that much in profits? isn't that how free enterprise works. For every big bank that is hesitant to loan money to a company whos profits are reduced there are smaller banks salivating at chance to shell out that money. In what world is a company that still has sky high profits and margins a bad bet because they lost a percentage of their revenue due to raising salaries?

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if the company refuses to raises prices to make up for the lost profitability or profit, the company will begin firing people to reduce their overall costs.


and this is my question from the start WHY?
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23686 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:54 pm to
A targeted, selective minimum wage is bullshite.

I suspect some of this is driven by an animosity against fast food. "We can't get people, often poor, to quit eating this crap so we'll run them out of business."
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:56 pm to
Ballooning prices is definitely an exaggeration. You can't always go off of percentages either. It's a matter of what people will pay. You can say this item increased by 100% in cost, but oh yeah it was $1 previously.

If $16 is too high to pay for fast food, which it is, so was $15. It doesn't have to happen either, but the company executives want those 8 digit bonus checks at year's end so....
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:57 pm to
CEO compensation has increased their pay from 1978 to 2018 by 1007.5% while the typical workers salary has increased only 11.9%

Salaries and pay across the board have been way too stagnant for way too long in this country. To where the average middle class family has to have both parents work full time high paying jobs to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:59 pm to
You let me know when a business can run fully automated by itself without nothing but share holders who also don’t do any physical work. They just have the money to back it. No matter how they may have accumulated that wealth
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10616 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Finkle is Einhorn


Jesus Christ you are an idiot.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69030 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:00 pm to
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Salaries and pay across the board have been way too stagnant for way too long in this country. To where the average middle class family has to have both parents work full time high paying jobs to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck


Im a millennial and my parents are boomers.


I didnt have any friends who had a stay at home mom. They all worked.





This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:01 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84374 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:01 pm to
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. To where the average middle class family has to have both parents work full time high paying jobs to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck



Guess we're just making shite up now.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69030 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:02 pm to
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You let me know when a business can run fully automated by itself without nothing but share holders who also don’t do any physical work. They just have the money to back it. No matter how they may have accumulated that wealth



Sure, you just need one or two people who know how to do maintenance on the equipment. Which won't be the fry guy you replaced with a machine.


You never heard of flippy?






This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7125 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:04 pm to
Simple solution: stop eating fast food it is poison and extremely unhealthy.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30637 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:04 pm to
Fast food workers will be demanding $30/hr soon enough. The inflation cycle will continue.
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2208 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Salaries and pay across the board have been way too stagnant for way too long in this country. To where the average middle class family has to have both parents work full time high paying jobs to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck


Sorry, but the salary of CEO's has absolutely fricking nothing to do with women being forced into the workplace.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:05 pm to
Yes it’s been that way for quite a while now
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:07 pm to
You need one or two people to work on the equipment for every McDonald’s in the world?

Ok how many share holders and executives do you need to be over those one or two workers?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5422 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Fast food workers will be demanding $30/hr soon enough. The inflation cycle will continue.



Exactly. Wages are in relationship to one another. The ripple effect from artificially increasing the bottom rung up only causes all of the wages up the ladder to move one rung up. The result is only inflation.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10616 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:09 pm to
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or ignoring the fact that profit margins are a way bigger priority to these companies than taking care of employees and serving the public will ever be.


No shite? CEOs are required to meet budgets and maintain profits? Some of y’all are flaming idiots.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69030 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Yes it’s been that way for quite a while now



Well what does that have to do with ceo salaries?



My mom entered the workforce before 1978. So as women entered the workforce CEO salaries increased.

Ceo salaries increasing didnt force women into the workforce.




Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5988 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:10 pm to
Everything will increase. The guy who was already making $20 now needs to make $25 to keep ahead.

Minimum wage workers will see no increase in purchasing power. There will always be jobs with minimal skill requirements which pay low.
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