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re: Kansas Ban On Child Transgender Medicalization Fails To Beat Veto After Two GOP Flip

Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:51 am to
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63695 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:51 am to
Weak?

From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
1903 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
I don't want any government in any medical procedure no matter how fricked up it is. I get this is fricked up but this is when the boards need to be pressured and getting it put in their policy. Whether it's mutilation or abortion the boards need to step in and do their job. Not the government
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79415 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:56 am to
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Weak?

From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?


Let's leave the decisions of whether to give opioids to children to their parents and doctors

Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19489 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:58 am to
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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Based on that logic parents should be allowed to consent to their child having sex with adults. Parents should be allowed to let children drink alcohol from the second they are born. Parents should be allowed to do whatever they want with their children with no restrictions. Get the frick out of here with your bullshite.

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Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?

Yes, it is. There are all kinds of restrictions on what a parent can allow, or disallow, even when it comes to medical decisions. For example parents aren't allowed to refuse blood transfusions even for religious reasons.

ETA: Gender mutiliation of a child is abhorrent and any parent who forces that on their children - who have no legal right to consent or agree to anything until they turn 18 - should all be imprisoned.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84393 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:07 am to
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Weak?

From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?


Any parent that would willingly maim their child and any frickstick doctor that would agree to it should be shot.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26682 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:07 am to
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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.


The problem is that for this particular issue, the medical community has been compromised. Doctors are following the dictates of the state, and parents have had their children taken away from them for refusing "affirming care."

Permanent, life altering medical procedures should NEVER be performed on children unless it is a true life or death situation. A boy who wants to play with his sister's dolls does not fall into that category.

Trans-regret is a real and growing issue, but those who dare to speak out are bullied beyond belief to keep their mouths shut.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31363 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:10 am to
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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.


Unfortunately, some parents aren’t happy with the gender of their children. This is where the government steps in.
No one should be messing with a kid’s gender. If they want to be a girl or boy or whatever, it should wait until they are 18.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24810 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:11 am to
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the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions



cutting a 15yo's dick off is not a medical decision. there is no medical health involved with this decision whatsoever. it it strictly a mutilation of genitalia for cosmetic reasons only, and that should never be allowed on anyone who is a minor. the doctors performing these surgeries or prescribing the hormone blockers are doing it for either or a combination of two reasons: they love the money, they are idiological psychopaths. They are just like you: sick, demented, evil motherfrickers.
Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
1001 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:47 am to
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Kansas Ban On Child Transgender Medicalization Fails To Beat Veto After Two GOP Flip
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VOR

Approval of this behavior really does make people like you evil. Pure evil diabolical anarchy eats your brain/heart. Get right with God.

"Neck tattoos for babies are between their parent and the licensed tattoo artist"
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109635 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:54 am to
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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.


If the parents and doctors agreed to lobotomize the child, would you agree with that and say it was just their business? I thought the doctor’s oath was “Do No Harm.”

We’ve gone so fricking crazy that I now have to explain to people that mutilating and castrating children is evil.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6099 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Weak?


No. They are Democratic plants. They show their true colors when tough legislation comes up.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23330 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:31 pm to
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and their doctors


These aren't doctors.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23330 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:36 pm to
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medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?


It's not medicine so your entire insane rant is invalid.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34754 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:38 pm to
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From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.


The doctors making bank off of the surgery?

I roasted the ever living frick out of Hank when he posted something similar to your stupidity.

The data is EXTREMELY CLEAR, this coursecof action is harmful in the long term. By supporting these heinous acts…Im definitively of the opinion that you, Hank, and the medical butchers involved, are all in support of child abuse.

You do you though.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3232 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?


Do you like the idea that a 13 year old girl should be able to have sex with a 45 year old man, if the parents consent to it???

If you have a problem with that (and you are a sick frick if you don’t have a problem with it) then you most certainly should have a problem with a 13 year old boy having his dick cut off, because his parents consented to it.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16335 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:52 pm to
Doctors and parents should decide if little kids need transgender medical services?

I reject that belief. I'm not against parents teaching their children whatever they want, and instilling their own ideals into their children... but when it moves to actions, where some children are basically being sterilized without being old enough to contemplate and decide it for themselves, I'm against it.

Got to be 21 to buy cigs and beer. 18 to buy lottery tickets. 18 to vote. But when it comes to mutilation at the behest of parents.. there's no age limit?


It wouldn't be bad if all sides of the transgender argument were equally presented. But, the youth who transitioned and were negatively impacted...are often censored from speaking out about it. The vast majority of transgender stories and articles are positive, and portray going through the medical procedures as great. That one sided dialogue has led to many not understanding what they were getting into. Then when they are suffering post-transition, they are silenced...while the cookie cutter portrayals of transitioning being akin to rainbows and butterflies continue to flood across society, coaxing more and more people.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7255 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:55 pm to
Dovyou have children? Should your 14 year old be able to get a boob job or penis enlargement?

These aren't "life-saving" surgeries, they are elective procedures...
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
10885 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 6:51 pm to
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Weak?

From the comment they believe in leaving such serious decisions, short of surgery, to the parents and their doctors.

Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?


Jesus Christ. This board has really allowed some fricked up shite to spread around lately. Tarzana thinks 11 year old girls should be able to consent to sex and you think parents and doctors should take it upon themselves to just Josef Mengele their child in anyway they feel like. frick you and anybody who agrees with you
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37472 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:33 pm to
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Some of you really like the idea of government being involved in all sorts of individual medical decisions. Is that a conservative point of view?



Because the idea that conservatives want government out of everything is a low IQ conservative idea. And it's not true. It's just a reaction to the ongoing overregulation proposed by Liberals.

So let's put that to bed and talk about letting doctors mutilate children with the agreement of parents - because that's what this is. How do you feel about that idea instead? Let's have that discussion instead of fake ones.
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