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re: Assassin's Creed Shadows (formerly codename Red) reveal on May 15

Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:02 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:02 am to
I will make this last point.



Ubisoft games have this disclaimer, for as long as I can remember, and you can literally romance every character in Odyssey and Valhalla regardless of which protagonist you choose. Why is this game all of the sudden going to be so much worse?

No, I would never play a game that was straight up about trans characters having a good old time, but in general with games, as long as the character is well written, have at it.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:54 am to
I have no issue with diverse characters in games. I am among the few that enjoyed Deathloop.

When a character is great, was developed organically, and also happens to check boxes. . .that is fine. Gay vamp from BG3 is a great example.

My issue is the "we need to make a black/gay/trans character to check a box" or the "since we can't make a gay/trans/black character worth a frick, let's change an existing character to that and make it their primary identity"

That is all Sweet Baby and BGG, and to a lesser degree GaymerX, does.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Member since Jul 2011
6724 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:06 am to
Clarifying your last point:
I’ve not played any of them since unity so I can’t speak to the later games. I don’t remember that being the disclaimer in the earlier games so I decided to look into it. After a quick google search, it turns out it was changed to the version you posted for Syndicate. In 2015. Previously it only mentioned “various religious faiths and beliefs”

I don’t think anyone cares if you can romance whoever you want. That’s literally a player’s choice to do that. We are really talking about forced story issues here.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39329 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:53 pm to
Diverse characters are fine as long as they are appropriate to the setting. The first AC game had a middle eastern protagonist because that's where the game was set. Origins had an Egyptian protagonist because that's where the game was set. Having a black samurai in feudal Japan doesn't make any sense historically. Japan was a very closed off country to the rest of the world. If somehow a former African slave did wash up on their shore, there were no respectable samurai masters that would train him.

Considering there games are historical in nature, they need to be somewhat believable to reality.
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