re: 56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare

Give me what I paid in plus interest and I'll forgive what I'm owed and invest it myself at this late date and likely do wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better than what they would have paid.

I want ALL entitlements to end. But sure

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if we are to fix SS by 2033, it will require the largest tax increase in the history of the country, assuming congress kills any attempt at raising retirement age.

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Why not just print more money? Congress seems to think that's the answer to everything right now

I want an expansion in Social Security. Here’s why. I spent a career working in the public sector so i get my full retirement. In Louisiana, public employees don’t pay into SS. BUT, I also worked a second job throughout my career where i did pay into SS.

Lousiana is one of 13 states where if you get a public pension you are only given approximately 50% of the SS benefits you earned.

Entitlements. The fair way to address this issue would be a person receiving a percentage of what that person has paid into social security. In my opinion, receiving financial payments in retirement that a person has been forced to contribute their entire life is not "entitlement". It's what's is due that person.

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So did she pay her own or did she not?

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Someone bought the most recent lottery ticket winner. Did they pay on their own or not? How many folks born in 1875 lived to be 100?

Not at all. Probably 98% of those want the zuS to quit giving hundreds of billions of dollars to Ukraine. Also want us to quit giving room and board and paid cash cards to millions of illegals. Etc…. Etc… Etc….

The shite goes on and on and on. Entitlements for American citizens. You really think this is what this is about??? Seriously? If we can forgive hundreds of billions in student loans and all the other horseshite we spend overseas we can increase SS benefits EASAfrickINGLY.

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How is it a populist position to want the money government has taken from your check for 45 years?

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That sentence doesn't really ask anything meaningful because you're trying so hard to frame what's happening according to your narrative. You didn't even get the populist part right.

Let's break it down like this:

SS was a scam from the outset. It was sold to the public as an involuntary investment program. You pay your money in, the government invests it and pays you dividends when you get older.

That was a lie. Just like Obamacare was a lie. You didn't get to keep your doctor. The average family didn't save $2,500. It was a lie and we know that they knew it was a lie (see John Gruber).

SS was the same way.

If you stop and think about it for 10 seconds you know without a doubt that it can't be "your money you've paid in for 45 years" that you're getting back.

If that were really the case the first person eligible for a payout wouldn't have been eligible until 1982. And think for a second about inflation. You put in a small fraction of what you're getting back. The government doesn't invest any of the funds except the surplus, and it only invests it in government securities. Other wise it's just taxpayers paying in and recipients getting paid with that same money.

So it's literally not a real investment fund where you put in money that grows (hopefully) faster than inflation and compounds over decades and yields a much bigger sum than what you paid in. It doesn't work that way. It's almost entirely today's taxpayers paying for yesterday's taxpayers.

And it was designed to be that way from the beginning. The whole thing was just as much a lie as Obamacare, told by just as liberal of a president.

All it is is welfare for the old. People who are working are paying in, people who are not working are getting paid from their taxes.

And when you have generational population fluctuations, it bankrupts the system.

The fact that you guys won't accept that obvious reality (because it serves your narrative of "I want what's MINE") is what I'm talking about.

And it's ironic because the mantra around this populist petrie dish is that you can't believe anything the government tells you.

Except, apparently, the marketing campaign from 1936 about SS. The one thing that is an obvious lie that anyone with 4 working brains cells can figure out HAS to be a lie just by thinking it through for 30 seconds...THAT'S the one thing y'all will believe. Nay...that y'all refuse NOT to believe, in that face of facts presented to you.

Look, wanting the money back is one thing. I wish I had every penny I have ever paid the government in taxes regardless of what they used it for.

But that doesn't change any of this.

SS/Medicare are what is breaking the bank and nothing else comes close, AND, it's going to keep getting worse b/c the population is declining while Americans aren't getting married and having children.

I keep telling y'all that the open border is NOT about votes. It's about THIS.

SOMEBODY has got to pay into this fund if it's going to stay workable (I didn't say "solvent," I just said workable).

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Straw man

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Irony!

You didn't run median or average numbers.

Instead, you ran numbers on one recipient who lived 30-40% longer than her contemporaries.