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Another Federal Circuit Court Finds Convicted Felons Can Own Guns After Discharge
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:22 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:22 am
I have been saying this for a long time. If a person has served time for the crime and is released from prison and supervision, that person has every right as any other citizen. Without, it is cruel and unusual punishment.
At least 3 Federal Circuits have said the same. SCOTUS should make it official soon.
(Another Circuit Gets It Right
At least 3 Federal Circuits have said the same. SCOTUS should make it official soon.
(Another Circuit Gets It Right
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 3:25 pm
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:26 am to Timeoday
I am in complete agreement.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:27 am to Timeoday
Which means Judge Eboni Rose Johnson’s racist tirade was useless after all?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:30 am to Timeoday
If a sentence is complete, no probation, no parole and no unpaid fines, fees, restitution, then I am in agreement. That individual has done everything the law requires to pay for their crimes.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 8:31 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:59 am to Ace Midnight
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If a sentence is complete, no probation, no parole and no unpaid fines, fees, restitution, then I am in agreement. That individual has done everything the law requires to pay for their crimes
I disagree with the money part of this.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:01 am to Timeoday
Didn't read article but is there a difference in one offense versus multiple?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:03 am to novabill
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I disagree with the money part of this.
Exactly. Debtor's prison's should be a relic though Contempt of Court for non-payment can land you in the slammer.
Besides, how does not being able to pay the fine or restitution cause a person to be dangerous?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:07 am to Timeoday
Cause to be dangerous? Probably not but the tend to be more inclined and desperate than someone who never committed a serious crime, say armed robbery
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:08 am to Timeoday
State lets you go, you should have your freedoms returned.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:09 am to Nosevens
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Probably not but the tend to be more inclined and desperate than someone who never committed a serious crime, say armed robbery
the illegal nature of owning a firearm has never stopped a felon from obtaining one if they desire.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:12 am to Timeoday
So would this do away with the background checks when buying a gun?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:15 am to Timeoday
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He argues that, under the Supreme Court’s recent decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol arse’n v. Bruen, 597 U.S. 1 (2022), § 922(g)(1) violates the Second Amendment as applied to him, a non-violent offender who has served his time in prison and reentered society. We agree.
I'm sure the Fudd Bros will be along shortly to tell us how violating the Second Amendment is cool when they agree with it.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:19 am to novabill
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I disagree with the money part of this.
Well, they're not going to release you from probation or parole while you still owe money so as a stand-alone it's a moot point.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:26 am to shinerfan
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Well, they're not going to release you from probation or parole while you still owe money so as a stand-alone it's a moot point.
Wrong! I know a few who have been released from parole while owing from $4,000 - $120,000+ in restitution. Since it does happen, how is it moot?
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:30 am to Nosevens
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Cause to be dangerous? Probably not but the tend to be more inclined and desperate than someone who never committed a serious crime, say armed robbery
Survey says!! No, this is not Family Feud. So you are saying "Probably" should be a reason to take away the ability for one to protect self and liberty, right?
With all of their rights restored, how can they be desperate when able to protect their own self, family and their liberty?
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:32 am to Timeoday
Are we talking violent crimes? If so then no right to weapons ever. White collar? We can talk
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:34 am to Timeoday
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have been saying this for a long time. If a person has served time for the crime and is released from prison and supervision, that person has every right as any other citizen. Without, it is cruel and unusual punishment.
Agreed. If someone has completely paid their debt to society, then they should be be entitled to every right they are supposed to have.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:35 am to Timeoday
They often can’t vote either.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:49 am to CR4090
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So would this do away with the background checks when buying a gun?
Not inherently, no. Form 4473 also restricts people for drug use, mental health, citizenship status, military discharge status, etc.
SCOTUS could blow it up, and they should, but they've avoided doing that in the past.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:53 am to Nosevens
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Cause to be dangerous?
Why the current laws (like S.O. Registry laws) do nothing to increase security and safety. Those cons that want a gun are going to have one no matter what the law says.
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