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Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
226 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:11 pm
didn't see a thread on it but obviously a classic. Watched it last weekend for the first time in probably 10 years and then the George of the Jungle thread got me thinking about it even more.

Such a great movie with great acting, story, setting, and soundtrack. Probably one of Denzels best roles and the whole cast does an excellent job.

I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could. Maybe a little too much "white man angry" but still not preachy.

Got some great one liners too. Just a great flick all the way around.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25876 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could.


Some of the sports stuff is definitely dramatized (which I get). For example, they actually kicked the shite out of their opponent in the championship game. But I get why a movie would make that change. I don’t believe Sunshine ever did schoolyard yoga.

And when Petey passed away a few years ago, he maintained that he didn’t have a fumbling problem.

quote:

Jones later became a beloved security guard at T.C. Williams, where sometimes the male students would joke with him about his character’s famous fumbling problem in the movie, which Jones would later say was fictional.

“And I did not fumble the football,” Jones said in a 2014 story in The Washington Post.



Love that movie. One of my favorite in the sports category.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36690 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:16 pm to
i like that they were the only school in the state with black people.

Its like they are in Virginia playing schools from Oregon
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21340 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:54 pm to
One big thing is Alexandria has been an urban city since the 1700s. They made it seem like it was in a very rural part of the state.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7566 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Some of the sports stuff is definitely dramatized (which I get)


from what I've read, a LOT of it was changed to make a better movie.

Gerry and Julius were nowhere near as close as the movie portrays. They were friends, but not "brothers" like in the movie.

The racial tension on the team was way overblown in the film. Supposedly they were just like another team as far as closeness or chemistry pretty much from the word jump.

Gerry's wreck didn't happen until after the season was over. He played in that championship game.

the school had already been integrated for several years before the movie shows it to have happened.

The Gettysburg scene is mostly fiction. They didn't run there before sunrise. They took a bus and a guided tour during normal hours.

etc.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25876 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:01 pm to
And not to derail the thread but TC Williams was renamed a few years ago
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6876 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:14 pm to
Gary Bertier was paralyzed by a drunk driver but that occurred in the spring after the championship game.

Julius and Gary were teammates and were friends but were BFF's like in the movie.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1742 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:23 pm to
The other schools were integrated too. The movie made it seem like they were playing all white teams.

The banana scene did not happen.

Bill Yoast had 4 kids and not 1. Yoast was not happy that the movie portrayed him having 1 daughter.

No one through a brick through Coach Boone's window. It was a toilet instead.

The Titans did not dance during warmups but I liked this inclusion in the film.
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
226 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:26 pm to
Dang I didn't know any of the real life facts yall have mentioned. I knew it had to have a little extra drama but still.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:30 pm to
I loved the movie when it first came out due to its message but after doing research on the historical events the film portrays, I can't help but feel robbed by Hollywood.

For one...Virginia had been integrated since the mid-60s and most of the players who went on to form that 1971 T.C. Williams Titans football team had already played on integrated teams before the area schools merged into one. There may have been some racial tensions among them, but most of the tension involved competition for starting spots. Also...the real Coach Boone was absolutely DESPISED by his players and was nothing like the Boone we saw portrayed by Denzel Washington. The man was a brutal task master and there was even a mutiny among the assistant coaches, led by none other than Coach Yost, several years after the 1971 championship season due to his cruelty toward players.

And as has already been stated, Petey never had a fumbling problem, Gerry Bertier and Julius Campbell were not best friends, and Bertier didn't have his car accident until after the season had concluded. Also...Yost's daughter was not the die hard football fan she was portrayed in the film.

In summary, the story about the 1971 T.C. Williams football team was heavily embellished. Almost none of it was true. It really makes you feel like you'd been had when you actually read up on what the real team was like.
Posted by Northshore Aggie
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2022
4747 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I'm sure it's not 100% historically accurate but they handle the race issue about as well as they could. Maybe a little too much "white man angry" but still not preachy.

modern day Hollywood and The Message has actually caused me to enjoy older movies that address race issues less. i always loved Remember the Titans, but now when I watch movies from this and previous eras, even though they work racial subplots into them in a fairly believable and not super obnoxious style, my 2024 warped brain is so easily triggered by this stuff that I just get aggravated. i guess partially because i see it now as like the early stages of what i now know Hollywood would become. i dont know, whatever.

that said, in a vacuum, Remember the Titans is a great fricking movie.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7566 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Gary Bertier was paralyzed by a drunk driver but that occurred in the spring after the championship game.


he was paralyzed in a single car accident when he hit a pole.
they blamed it on something being wrong with car's suspension or something if I remember right.

the drunk driver accident is what killed him several years later.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7566 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

I knew it had to have a little extra drama but still.


the real story is still a cool story, but probably not a "great movie" type tory.
Posted by Red12_Black4
Little Rock, AR
Member since Oct 2017
226 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

makes you feel like you'd been had


Exactly how i'm feeling now.

When I played HS football we used to watch this pretty much every other week so still some nostalgia there as well and still a good movie on it's own like others have said. Definitely eye opening though.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:49 pm to
well ya'll just ruined this damn movie for me!!
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3303 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:51 pm to
Dang...just did a little research on Gerry Bertier. In the 1971 season, Bertier had 42 sacks and his tackles for loss caused RBs to lose a total of 432 yards.

Other fact that I noticed: While Boone won state in 1971, he only made the playoffs 1 more time before he was fired in 1979.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25876 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:59 pm to
For me the movie isn’t ruined. Was it embellished like all Hollywood films? Certainly. But the message is the same and it’s a damn good movie (Rudy is the same way in my view).

If it was the exact same film but completely made up teams and names they’d both be great films and stories. Like a lot of other sports movies from the 80s-2000s.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36690 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

.the real Coach Boone was absolutely DESPISED by his players and was nothing like the Boone we saw portrayed by Denzel Washington.


Boone is a dickhead in the movie but Denzel is so damn likable that you don't care
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12217 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:10 pm to
Never knew this was even based on a true story. Just thought it was a solid movie.

Oh well, it can’t be as false as Rudy was. According to Joe Montana he was just a normal walk on player that nobody gave a shite about and the whole movie was a laughable lie.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6448 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Boone is a dickhead




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