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re: Mathieu officially signing 3 year $33 million deal. 18 Million guaranteed
Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:33 pm to PTLSU
Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:33 pm to PTLSU
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Marcus Williams got 5/70
Williams plays a more valuable/expensive position (deep/cover safety) and is entering his prime.
Mathieu plays a less valuable position (box-nickel), has already exited his prime, wasn't that good last year, and will decline a great deal every year.
I'm happy we got him, but it's nowhere near a like:like comparison.
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah. Hot take that will get me downvoted, but I think we still downgraded overall at the position pretty heavily: Mathieu & Maye vs Williams and Jenkins. Understandably, though, since Mickey has been pretty forthcoming about their desire to clean up the cap.
Have to hope that TM's intangibles make up some of the difference.
Have to hope that TM's intangibles make up some of the difference.
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Mathieu plays a less valuable position (box-nickel), has already exited his prime, wasn't that good last year, and will decline a great deal every year.
I’m not sure he’ll decline “a great deal” every year, but I understand where you’re coming from. And you’re an analytical guy, so you’re gonna compare their individual production. Which is valid. But—and this is impossible to quantify—but TM is more valuable than his simple quantifiable production. His being on the field is gonna make everyone better, a sum is greater than the whole of its parts kinda guy. And I think that extends to the whole team as well, not just the defense.
This team doesn’t have a whole lot of guys that have played in big NFL games anymore, and he’s a Super Bowl champion that everybody can look to. So just comparing the individual safeties we lost to the ones we gained, on paper may look like we downgraded. But assuming they stay healthy, I think the defense and the entire team is better with these 2.
Posted on 5/2/22 at 4:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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wasn't that good last year, and will decline a great deal every year.
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He finished the 2021 regular season with 76 total tackles, six passes defensed, three interceptions and three fumble recoveries, earning his second consecutive Pro Bowl selection.
Eh. I mean, by all measures he wasn't an All Pro last year but he was still pretty damn solid for them according to PFF. Better than Jenkins. People also said Jenkins was going to decline in his two years here once we got him since he was 32 at the time we signed him. And he was pretty damn solid for us.
TM7 didn't play in the divisional round against Buffalo and the Chiefs got torched by the Bills. They were much better defensively against Cincy in the AFCCG. They still lost, but had plenty of chances to win thanks to the D.
ETA: But to your credit, SFP, he does play a less valuable position than Williams. We will miss Williams a lot this year. How much will be dependent on Maye and PJ Williams, not as much of MW's role will be laid on Mathieu's shoulders. He's going to be asked to basically do what Jenkins did for us but at a higher level. The only bad thing is we gave Maye a lot of money for the next 2-3 years. I hope he pans out.
This post was edited on 5/2/22 at 4:26 pm
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