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re: People continued to flee Louisiana in 2022
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:06 pm to Revorising
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:06 pm to Revorising
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Houma is straight trash now.
As long as they got that oilfield cash…
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Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:09 pm to Ghost of Colby
Lot of self-loathing going on in this thread.
I’m seeing complaints about taxes. move to Texas and buy a home then talk about property taxes. Louisiana property taxes are almost nonexistent in most of the state.
crime and bad public schools? Don’t live in the cities. BR and Nola both have surrounding areas that are fine to live and commute from.
Give me a rural parish that has a decent sized town within 45 minutes or so. Lincoln, Union Claiborne, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, Avoyelles, Vernon, Beauregard Parishes all offer a good quality of life IMO.
but my personal preference on quality of life is probably different than many of y’all’s. Decent hunting fishing and some local mom n pop’s restaurants are all I need. Wife prefers a Target within 45 minutes but hey, online shopping is at an all time high. Public schools in these parishes are good enough. Parental involvement is what really matters.
I’m seeing complaints about taxes. move to Texas and buy a home then talk about property taxes. Louisiana property taxes are almost nonexistent in most of the state.
crime and bad public schools? Don’t live in the cities. BR and Nola both have surrounding areas that are fine to live and commute from.
Give me a rural parish that has a decent sized town within 45 minutes or so. Lincoln, Union Claiborne, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, Avoyelles, Vernon, Beauregard Parishes all offer a good quality of life IMO.
but my personal preference on quality of life is probably different than many of y’all’s. Decent hunting fishing and some local mom n pop’s restaurants are all I need. Wife prefers a Target within 45 minutes but hey, online shopping is at an all time high. Public schools in these parishes are good enough. Parental involvement is what really matters.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:12 pm to Ghost of Colby
Vote Democrat, get Democrats.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:18 pm to Ghost of Colby
All the people leaving the state of Louisiana are the ones that La. cant afford to lose. They are the educated working folks that will contribute to the state coffers for many years. Louisiana's future is not looking good and all the corruption has not helped its cause.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:20 pm to rltiger
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The decline is because Louisiana is stagnant. No new jobs, industry, or incentives. No white collar jobs, no fortune 500 companies and no one perusing any.
It’s so much bigger than this in my experience. It’s no one thing for most of us, but a combination of factors that are honestly just not solvable. It’s more a quality of life matter.
Some alluring job in a cutting edge industry with a big salary will just never draw back many that left and feel life is about more than just money. Infrastructure is horrid, but that’s lots of places. Crime is awful, but LA isn’t the only state suffering through that. The (sometimes) fun culture and certainly great food is missed, but it’s not enough. You can find different versions of that anywhere if you know where to look.
Other major factors:
- Awful weather
- Lack of diverse terrain and 4 seasons (and activity options as a result)
- The state being last in everything for decades and too corrupt to fix what can be. Education and healthcare being some huge ones, especially for those wanting a family.
I could go on but this will be divisive enough. I’ll always have family and friends there to go back to, but, like many, living in Louisiana is distantly in the rear view and it’s not because of a job.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:21 pm to dgnx6
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high sales tax and state income tax.
You left out car and home insurance!
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:22 pm to turnpiketiger
quote:the only good public schools are in or right outside of Nola, br, and Shreveport
crime and bad public schools? Don’t live in the cities.
quote:shite schools and no jobs
Lincoln, Union Claiborne, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, Avoyelles, Vernon, Beauregard
quote:peer group matters, a lot
Parental involvement is what really matters.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:24 pm to FLObserver
People with the means or opportunity to are leaving and never coming back. LA ranks among the worst in ever significant national metric, the wetlands have long since been condemned, and the government (at least mine) has never been counterproductive.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:31 pm to tigerskin
quote:A plethora of Altimas without license plates and sporting the requisite donut spare tire in use.
Wouldn’t know it by the traffic. Never seen Baton Rouge, the Northshore and the interstate between them to be busier
Great barometer of a vibrant economy.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:34 pm to soccerfüt
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A plethora of Altimas without license plates and sporting the requisite donut spare tire in use.
Great barometer of a vibrant economy.
This is so true.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:42 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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the only good public schools are in or right outside of Nola, br, and Shreveport quote: Lincoln, Union Claiborne, Ouachita, Pointe Coupee, Avoyelles, Vernon, Beauregard shite schools and no jobs quote: Parental involvement is what really matters. peer group matters, a lot
North shore schools, Zachary ascension or Livingston schools. Bossier Haughton or Minden.
shite schools? Pretty sure at least a few that I listed are too 10 in the state. No jobs? Uh yeah that’s why I said commuting 45 minutes or so to a city.
Peer group? Know who your kids are hanging out with and know what type of families they come from? In a smaller community it isn’t that difficult.
You literally just cherry picked my whole post to fit your self-loathing narrative. I clearly said the community that we live in has to be 45 minutes or so from a city. If you want quality of life you sacrifice having a job right around the corner from home. Why can’t you idiots grasp that concept
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:45 pm to Ghost of Colby
Every county in the Atlanta Metro(save Clayton), gained population. The two counties in the Smokies foothills(Lumpkin & Dawson) at the far northern end of the Metro area are both dark blue (not surprised). Hall is medium blue. The two counties on each side of Athens(Oconee & Jackson) each gained.
The Savannah metro counties(Effingham to the north and Bryan to the SW) were both medium blue and every other coastal county was light blue.
Every mountain county save Fannin & Dade gained.
My home county in Western PA (Butler) was one of only two counties(Washington the other) in that entire part of the Commonwealth to gain people. I'm almost certain most of the growth in Butler was mostly concentrated in the southernmost townships bordering Allegheny County (Adams & Cranberry Townships). Was just up home two weeks ago and that section of the county is still growing.
The Savannah metro counties(Effingham to the north and Bryan to the SW) were both medium blue and every other coastal county was light blue.
Every mountain county save Fannin & Dade gained.
My home county in Western PA (Butler) was one of only two counties(Washington the other) in that entire part of the Commonwealth to gain people. I'm almost certain most of the growth in Butler was mostly concentrated in the southernmost townships bordering Allegheny County (Adams & Cranberry Townships). Was just up home two weeks ago and that section of the county is still growing.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:47 pm to whoa
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TOPS is the problem no one wants to address. Smart kids gets their free education & leave. In addition to tightening up the requirements, there should be a post-graduation residency requirement or you have to pay it back.
With what jobs?
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:50 pm to DeafJam73
The Texas transplants are always on here bragging about how they can go see opera and plays and shite lol
If we had an opera house in Louisiana people would stay
If we had an opera house in Louisiana people would stay
Posted on 3/31/23 at 4:57 pm to turnpiketiger
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You literally just cherry picked my whole post to fit your self-loathing narrative.
maybe we have different standards, but if your average ACT is less than 23 or so, it's not a good school. below 20 is absolute shite.
quote:why doesn't everyone spend two hours a day in a car so their kids can go to school with a bunch of dumb yokels
Uh yeah that’s why I said commuting 45 minutes or so to a city.
. oh, and good luck getting homeowners insurance. quote:wanting a better life isn't "self-loathing".
You literally just cherry picked my whole post to fit your self-loathing narrative. I
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:02 pm to StupidBinder
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If you accept a TOPs scholarship, you should be required to work in Louisiana for a set amount of time or a % of your check returned to the state if you leave Louisiana. Consider it a 0% interest loan
Just take one of the two options:
Option 1) Just make it a loan forgiveness program. Stay in Louisiana for five years with continuous employment and pay taxes and get an amount of your loan forgiven. No graduation, no employment, no loan forgiveness. Hell, open it up for top 5% of graduates from other colleges to get loan forgiveness if they move here.
Option 2) Fund Higher Ed instead of trying to subsidize with TOPS.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:07 pm to turnpiketiger
I agree with a lot of what you said but communicating 45min to a city won't find you a job.
I am outside of Houston now and moved here from arguably the best part of Louisiana, Covington/Folsom/Mand.
The only reason we even remotely going back is because we have little ones and both our families are there. I hate the fricking city but there are no jobs in LA and the weather absolutely sucks. Houston isn't much better but it is definitely noticeable.
I am outside of Houston now and moved here from arguably the best part of Louisiana, Covington/Folsom/Mand.
The only reason we even remotely going back is because we have little ones and both our families are there. I hate the fricking city but there are no jobs in LA and the weather absolutely sucks. Houston isn't much better but it is definitely noticeable.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 5:59 pm to roguetiger15
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Crime and hurricanes will do it
Take a look at the remaining hurricane sensitive coastline along the gulf coast.
The data suddenly becomes less compelling about hurricanes unless we think people move from one hurricane sensitive area to another.
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:00 pm to Suntiger
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Option 1)
I might be over-thinking it (especially for a Friday afternoon), but my concern (and the reason I’m torn on it) is that it makes the calculation of whether it’s worth it from the student’s perspective difficult at best and probably impossible.
If staying in LA slows/delays your career progression compared to moving to an area that’s better for your major, that could mean foregoing hundreds of thousands of dollars in compensation over the course of your career…even if the difference in entry level comp is only a few thousand.
Additionally, even if you keep a graduate instate for five years, is that even enough to make it worthwhile from the state’s perspective if most of those grads end up leaving after that anyway? I’d think it’s still probably a net loss for the state.
It’s a tough problem. Just don’t know how LA can fix it without potentially introducing more problems.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 3/31/23 at 6:46 pm to StupidBinder
Lived in LA all my life, and never thought about leaving until a couple years ago. People getting shot around here all the time. A kid caught a stray bullet visiting relatives on Sunday afternoon on one of the priciest streets in town. Nowhere is safe.
Now I’m getting excited about moving to the Carolinas or NW Arkansas in a few years post-retirement. Just got to dodge bullets until then.
Now I’m getting excited about moving to the Carolinas or NW Arkansas in a few years post-retirement. Just got to dodge bullets until then.
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