re: When Did America’s Decline Begin?

I don't think there is one answer to this question. You can say in the early 60s when the media became more present in everyone's lives. JFK pretty much was elected president because the women thought he was attractive. When him and Nixon had the first ever presidential candidate debate on TV, evidently Nixon won the debate, but came off as the old man while Kennedy appealed to females and younger people. That's when people started voting for people for other reasons than whether or not they were the best candidate.

Then the media showing everything going on in Vietnam divided the country.

There was WWII, the 50s is known to be the era that was truly America.. Early 60s people were exposed to more information, all kind of shite happened.

You can say that when we went to Vietnam. Vietnam played a huge factor in the drug problems in this country. Sending 18 year old kids over to Vietnam seeing shite that no one can get over seeing and the only way they were able to deal with it was to self medicate.

You can say maybe the crack epidemic hurt this country a lot. One can say that overall, the terrorist won on 9/11 when you look at how it impacted the future of this country. It gave an administration an excuse to get involved in other shite in the middle east we shouldn't have been involved in.

The opioid crisis had a really negative impact in this country, but did it cause it to decline? There are a lot of things you can argue that caused a decline in this country, but personally, I think it started in the 60s when jobs were being moved overseas.

The best example of this is in L.A., California. There were a lot of middle class black families. There were good manufacturing jobs. Compton was a nice area. Black people were able to afford homes there, then shite closed down, and sent overseas. All of a sudden there are no more jobs, those families went from middle class to lower class, white folk moved out (it was hurting their property value so they had to protect their investment before the value went lower) so more poverty stricken blacks moved in.

What happens when poor people don't have access to good jobs? Some people find other ways to make money. Neighborhood gangs that were just dumb teenagers fighting each other started becoming the lines in drug wars.

Or loot at Pittsburg for example. Known as the steel city. It was a blue collar city, hard working folk providing for their family and when it dried up, people who could moved away seeking new opportunity, those who couldn't stayed and lived in poverty. Poverty stricken areas become lower value areas where people looking for cheap places to live because they are poor move in and it becomes a collection of poor uneducated families.

This opens up the debate as to whether globalism is a good thing or not. Its good for corporations, its not good for the overall structure of the country and when I say overall structure, I am talking about each city, every town that are all part of the structure of the country.

Not to mention, companies make products that are not as good as they used to be and sell them for more while driving out the small town businesses and that also played a part in hurting "community" which impacted the country socially.

And our government has become an absolute joke who are controlled by these corporations who are making products cheaper and selling them for more. They are making so much money, they are paying the politicians to approve laws that favor them.

Then I think the change in the education system has put a toll on this country. I see these videos with students spraying mace on teachers because the teacher took away their phone. People mention that its because of a certain race who do all these things, I went to public school that was pretty much 50/50 white and black.

Not every teacher, but we had teachers who didn't frick around and made sure the students knew they were the teacher and we were the students. It was their classroom and if a teacher told someone more than once to put something away, they will take it. There were teachers who would take shite away and not give it back. In HS they would take away pagers, portable CD players, etc and if it got taken away you tried to hide it from your parents.

They stopped whoopin kids when I was in middle school, but in elementary school, the vice principle walked around with a purple paddle he called Purple Rain. He was this old black man.. Mr Jack and no one wanted to get sent to Mr. Jack. If you did and he paddled you, he would leave the door open so people can hear throughout the school and if the kid was heard crying they got messed with for a few days. And if a parent complained he would tell them "well if you don't want me to whip your kid then make sure he knows how to behave".

It wasn't a race think, he whooped kids, no matter their race, for the same stuff. The things kids do today, that's shite we would have never imagined doing because we were kept in check.

I can remember this black dude in my class had been being bad for a few days in a row. The teacher called his daddy. His daddy came to school, each section had two classes that was divided by these dividers. You could see the other class between the dividers and one day this kid's daddy went to the other class room and watched his son. At the time he seemed to be this really tall man and he wore cowboy boots with a big belt buckle. When is son started talking when the teacher was trying to teach he walked in, when his son saw him dude looked like he saw a ghost. His daddy took his belt off and wore his arse out then told him "we are going to deal with this when you get home". I don't think that kid ever talked again unless asked something by the teacher for the rest of the year.

People can say what they want, but when teachers had more control and the school backed the teachers and parents didn't think their kid could do no wrong, things flowed a little smoother.

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Wow. Unbelievable. You are replying to a post that doesn’t even name a country. But you are blindly agreeing that it is better.

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Where in my response did I say that said un-named country was better? I simply stated that it does make you wonder how drug addiction affects other countries the way it has affected ours.

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When Did America’s Decline Begin?

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When OweO found a keyboard.

Obama.

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September 11, 2001

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We lost any kind of checks and balances with the power we gave our president after 9/11. Whoever is in office can just do what they want the whole time they are there. Congress does have to pass anything.

Trump and Joe could learn from Obama's not doing crap in his fist four years and then turning the world on it's head in years five thru eight.

When the govment gave out PPP loans to every corp trying to crush the American Dream and become a monopoly with no oversight.

shite was awesome in the 80s and early 90s. Somewhere int the late 90s things turned for the worst.