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re: Changes coming to the Archdiocese of NOLA

Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24845 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:12 pm to
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Also, a traditional church building requires a lot of renovation to turn it in to something else, so you can only get so much by selling one.


I know for a fact Dominican wants to buy st. Rita school and church and would immediately make it a part of the campus, but the archdiocese is making it into office space instead.

A lose lose situation, imo. It would better serve Dominican and those who have a legitimate claim to law suit money, for what? Office space?
Posted by highup7
Alex City, Al.
Member since Jan 2005
1835 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:35 pm to
What about St. Leo The Great? I used to go there for Mass with my grandmother many years ago. Before we would go inside to Church, my grandmother would go to the grotto that was outside the Church. That parish has to be old because my ninety-four year old mother went to school at St. Leo. Before he became a priest, Bishop Robert Tracy's family were neighbors of my mom's family. They all lived across the street from the school.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
914 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:40 pm to
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The current pope is doing more than just saying some woke stuff.


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He was pushing hard for a number of progressive changes in the latest synod


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female deacons


I dont think it was him as much as it was a very small handful of laity serving as representatives for these fringe social groups within the church

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blessing gay marriage


He has already stated this will never happen, as the church cannot bless sin. What he said MIGHT be okay, is to bless individuals who live homosexual lifestyles. The context in which he stated this would be a blessing (prayer) upon the individual to repent and no longer live in sin.

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He didn’t have enough support to get major changes but he just pushed it back a year to try again


I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive it was always scheduled to run through 2024.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13371 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:45 pm to
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I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive it was always scheduled to run through 2024.



yeah it's also a synod, a synod of synodality is literally a meeting about meetings,

people acting like its some ecumenical council.

Nothing of note is coming from this.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19736 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:47 pm to
Catholic religion is a joke.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42780 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:49 pm to
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What about St. Leo The Great?
it merged with st Raymond a few years ago
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5007 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 3:50 pm to
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expect lots of ignorant a-hole comments to your post


And probably some comments you don’t like based on facts, logic, and simple reasoning.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5007 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:00 pm to
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I'm much more interested in what the leaders of the clergy are doing to remove and stop pedophiles from becoming priests


They’re not doing anything unless the priest is proven guilty, and I mean literally proven guilty, or they admit it. Not confess it in confession, they admit it during inquiry. This is what happened to the priest attached to pope John Paul in slidell. Multiple complaints about inappropriate conversations(basic grooming) with teenage boys and the school/archdiocese didn’t discipline him until he admitted decades old pedophilia during questioning. People don’t want to send their kids to those schools or go to their churches.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
5007 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:03 pm to
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he gay marriage thing is a no go


I’ve got a friend who’s a devout Catholic. He went to one of those retreats that “changed his life”. He now prioritizes his marriage(which is great) but his marriage is now an extension of his faith to THE CHURCH. He flat out told me that if HIS CHURCH told him that the gay was okay, then he’d go with that. I don’t even care about the gay stuff. But this devotion to a corporation is astounding to me and I genuinely respect this person
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10232 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:06 pm to
That's cult, not Catholicism........
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14443 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:12 pm to
The office space was lost when the Archdiocese sold the Howard Avenue building a year ago.
I've been involved with St. Rita for 23 years, this is the very first time I EVER hear of Dominican wanting to add St. Rita other than using the parking lot, which they do.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
914 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:42 pm to
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He now prioritizes his marriage(which is great) but his marriage is now an extension of his faith to THE CHURCH.


This could simply be a poor choice of words. The Catholic Church does teach marriage is a sacrament, so maybe that's what your friend meant.

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He flat out told me that if HIS CHURCH told him that the gay was okay, then he’d go with that


If his individual parish started to teach this, they are in direct violation of the dogmatic teachings of the Catholic Church as a whole, and are in error. If he meant this in reference to the Catholic Church as a whole, like on a magisterial level, this will never happen. It dogmatically teaches that homesexual acts are a mortal sin.

Also, cheers to being a fellow WP'er
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13371 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 4:52 pm to
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marriage is now an extension of his faith to THE CHURCH


marriage as a sacrament is meant to reflect the relationship Jesus has with his bride (i.e. the Church)

EtA:

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Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ loved the church and handed himself over for her to sanctify her” (Ephesians 5:25–26)


This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 4:54 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:31 pm to
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The office space was lost when the Archdiocese sold the Howard Avenue building a year ago.
I've been involved with St. Rita for 23 years, this is the very first time I EVER hear of Dominican wanting to add St. Rita other than using the parking lot, which they do.


Yeah, I don't understand why Dominican would need more space. Their enrollment is well below what it was 25 years ago, and is still dropping.

Now, if they wanted the space to prevent nefarious interests from moving in, I can understand that.

Given how close it is to the seminary, it makes complete sense for that facility to be turned into office space, especially since they no longer have Howard Ave.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm much more interested in what the leaders of the clergy are doing to remove and stop pedophiles from becoming priests. Also, they need to be transparent with the faithful concerning this. Paying people off by selling real estate and then sweeping the issue under the rug is the worst thing they can do!
I've been hearing of these things for over 40 years and I personally know of nothing being done to separate these people from the clergy!


There have been very, very few accusations of pedophile activity in the church, that such activity occured within the last 20-25 years. It hasn't been zero, but much less than activity 30 - 50 years ago.

I think they are figuring out how to prevent current incidents from happening. Mainly by taking steps to ensure priests aren't alone with little boys.

Now, where the Church continues to fail, is to fully acknowledge and handle those past incidents. I do not beleive all credibly accused preists have been removed or have died. And when new cases come up (again, the activity happened 25+ years ago), they drag their feet dealing with it.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:36 pm to
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stop pedophiles from becoming priests.


I strongly disagree that the vast majority of the offending priests are pedophiles.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58326 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Now, where the Church continues to fail, is to fully acknowledge and handle those past incidents. I do not beleive all credibly accused preists have been removed or have died. And when new cases come up (again, the activity happened 25+ years ago), they drag their feet dealing with it.



Correct.
Our priest was practically in tears a month or so ago when he had to speak to us about the latest Archbishop communication about maybe having to take money from individual budgets and such to help pay for the lawsuits.
Around that same time someone had re-hashed some older news about the church leadership not handling things well.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:42 pm to
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I strongly disagree that the vast majority of the offending priests are pedophiles.


What do you think they are?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37202 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:47 pm to
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Our priest was practically in tears a month or so ago when he had to speak to us about the latest Archbishop communication about maybe having to take money from individual budgets and such to help pay for the lawsuits.


Priests especially parish pastors these days are really burnt out. They are getting it from all sides. They are called before the archdiocese to explain why collections and volunteerism is down, when the real reason is because of the actions of the archdiocese. But the church is like the military with the command and control structure, so you can't disobey the higher-ups, even if the higher-ups are hurting your ability to do what you need to do for your parish.
Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24791 posts
Posted on 10/30/23 at 5:48 pm to
They are gay. Pedophilia involves abusing prepubescent children. Almost none of these cases involve prepubescent children.
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