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re: New LSU Arena - More Details Emerge

Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:45 pm to
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I'm definitely cool with a new arena but 15,000 is unrealistic.

LSU is a 12,000 max basketball school, more like 10K would be perfect.

No way we're ever selling out 15K.

Let build an arena like Auburn...perfect size


or do like Texas and have the fancy panels that fold down and block off the empty seats.



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While the arena can seat around 15,000, basketball games will only allow around 10,000 as the upper section will be closed off by panels. Those panels, which rotate up to allow seating in the upper bowl, are acoustic and are meant to bounce sound back to the court.
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Not only do they block off the empty seats but they bounce sound back towards the court and can be used to projections and light shows.
Posted by FUMDUCK
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2023
103 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 7:52 pm to
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Nicholson multilane expansion for an extended distance would have to accompany the new arena. That should at least help traffic for all campus events including football.


Add 30 years to project duration.
Posted by Tim Gambill
Member since Nov 2023
629 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 1:23 pm to
River Center?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40191 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:10 pm to
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Nicholson multilane expansion for an extended distance would have to accompany the new arena. That should at least help traffic for all campus events including football.


Add 30 years to project duration.



Whose cousin in the state legislature do I have to pay off to get a multimillion dollar study just to say that yes Nicholson will need to be expanded?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68486 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:58 pm to
Why not try to lure a developer to demolish and start over? Dont just build a venue but build beyond that
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10166 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:02 pm to
Wilson Alexander's article from yesterday. It has a lot of good details.

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Last June, LSU hosted six developers and design teams from around the country. Officials took them on facilities tours and discussed a new arena, seeking feedback as the school determines the future of the Pete Maravich Assembly Center.

LSU has long considered renovations to the aging PMAC, but early last year officials began to pursue a new stadium capable of hosting concerts and other events that have bypassed Baton Rouge. Some involved wondered if the city could support the project until some of the developers who visited expressed interest in a partnership.


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While the location and other details have not been finalized, Zinn said, the on-campus arena would cost an estimated $350-400 million in private funds and potentially hold a maximum of 13,000 seats. The arena would open in five years — possibly sooner — and the developer would cover the cost in exchange for building ownership and revenue from non-LSU sports events. LSU has narrowed the initial list of developers to two semifinalists.

Whether or not the plan moves forward hinges on approval of an ordinance the East Baton Rouge Parish Metro Council is scheduled to consider Wednesday. Facilities owned by the city-parish, mainly the Raising Cane’s River Center arena, would be prevented for 30 years from hosting both live performances with more than 3,500 attendees and professional sports with more than 8,500 fans unless it receives permission.


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Two months before they hosted the developers, a group of LSU officials went to Austin, Texas, to see the Moody Center.

The University of Texas at Austin and the Oak View Group, a professional sports and commercial real estate company based in Denver, formed a partnership in 2018 to build the on-campus arena. It opened four years later and hosted 139 acts within the first 20 months.

A versatile arena seats 15,000-plus at its maximum capacity, but it can be condensed to 10,763 for Texas men’s and women’s basketball. The San Antonio Spurs have two games this week at the Moody Center. Tim McGraw, Lauren Daigle, Madonna, Bad Bunny and others scheduled concert dates this spring. Multiple comedians, a lecture tour and Monster Jam will also pass through.


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LSU’s scouting party wanted to tour the arena and understand how it was paid for. The venue, which sits on land owned by the school, cost $375 million in private funding. In exchange for naming rights, the Moody Foundation donated a $130 million grant. The Oak View Group retains most of the income from non-Texas events for at least 35 years.


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Deciding to pursue a new arena meant pivoting away from the PMAC, which opened in 1971. Potential renovations have been discussed for years as the building aged. As recently as summer 2022, an architectural and design company was conducting a study on the stadium and helping chart a master construction plan for the athletic department.

Zinn said renovations on the PMAC would have cost “well north of $200 million.” LSU wanted to expand the footprint, which would have required moving the track for an additional $96 million. LSU later considered moving the track to build the new arena in the same place, but it scrapped the idea.


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Landry, who was hired by the Tiger Athletic Foundation to devise a financial plan for the potential renovations, looked at new market tax credits and historic tax credits for funding.

“It still became readily obvious there wasn’t enough revenue stream to improve the PMAC,” Landry said. “The biggest hole in the financial equation was the use of the facility for entertainment and events as it was from its initial construction through about the mid-80s.”

Even with improvements, Zinn and Landry said, the structure could not host modern concerts, which can require as much as 20 tons of equipment to hang from the ceiling. The scoreboard over center court also would impede the view of a stage from some seats. And without those concerts and other events, there would not be an additional revenue stream.



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If LSU gets approval to move forward on a new arena, Zinn said the PMAC would be renovated but at a lesser cost. Rather than updating the stadium to maintain its current role, construction would focus on building offices, strength and conditioning areas and practice space.


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In August 2023, a feasibility study about the River Center’s arena found its approximate capacity of 7,200 for concerts fell below the median capacity of 9,400, making it difficult to attract top acts.

Wayne Hodes, general manager of the River Center, said potential renovations to the entire complex could cost an estimated $120-150 million. The study presented multiple scenarios for the 47-year-old complex's future.

How the River Center functions would change with a new arena at LSU. Developers don’t want larger acts split between two venues because it would reduce potential revenue. The River Center could become a space catered toward conventions with a new headquarter hotel.

This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
Member since Aug 2015
712 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:13 pm to
I kind of see their thinking here. Would the PMAC still be used for other events like graduation or other smaller attended sports like volleyball?
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10166 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:22 pm to
Correct. In addition to events for the university like the LSU Career Expo, etc.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13146 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:52 pm to
LSUWBB sold more than 10K season tickets. And students get another 1500.

LSU better make sure that new arena can hold at least 13K.
Posted by Strokers Ace
Member since Mar 2024
80 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:23 pm to
It's also for luring & accommodating concerts genius
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4042 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:40 pm to
Who wants to bet there will be a white poop sewer pipe hanging from the valance panel on the outside?

But they'll paint it brown to hide it.

TAF in action....
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4042 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:46 pm to
The ENVIRONMENTAL survey will take 6 years minimum.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:51 pm to
The following is being voted on today at 4:00 by the metro council:

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53. 24-00227 An ordinance acknowledging and recognizing the benefits of the proposed Tiger Athletic Foundation Project to build an LSU Arena, and thereby restricting certain uses by City-Parish owned buildings, including the Raising Cane’s River Center, and authorizing the Mayor-President to identify one or more strategies for developing additional convention capacity and soliciting a developer to develop a convention hotel. By Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome, Councilwoman Carolyn R. Coleman, Councilwoman Jen Racca, Councilman Dwight Hudson, Councilman Cleve Dunn, Jr., Councilman Rowdy Gaudet, and Councilman Aaron Moak. Cover Letter Ordinance
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